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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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game is rigged change the game game

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right good evening Fade to Black

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today is March 21st 2023 and tonight is

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a special report on artificial

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what is it the who what when where why

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all of that stuff we're going to get

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into this tonight

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and uh now also

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um I'm gonna be keeping my eye on the

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chat if you do have any specific

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questions or points that you want to

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make uh pop it up there in all caps and

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and I'll try to get to it and

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incorporate that into this conversation

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tonight but uh with with all of that

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let's uh let's get straight to it

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because today

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artificial intelligence is here

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and it is

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in nearly every aspect of Our Lives

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and whether you know it or not or wanted

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there or not there's not much you can do

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about it it is here it has arrived and

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today another uh software engine uh of

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the artificial intelligence intelligence

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kind was was just announced it's called

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Bard and it's much like a chat uh GPT

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and others that are out there right now

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and and those versions of AI we're going

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to be uh getting very deep into tonight

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um now the deal is this

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uh let's just start out here what is

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artificial intelligence

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um it is in the headlines uh every

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single day now uh we know that uh again

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we'll be discussing more about this it

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is a part of the Google search engine it

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is part of the Bing search engine and

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many other things so

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um artificial intelligence

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is uh intelligence perceiving

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synthesizing and and inferring

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information demonstrated by machines and

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specifically computers

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intelligence displayed uh by non-human

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animals and humans it's two different

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kinds of intelligences and again we're

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going to get very deep in into this

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tonight and what the differences are

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um but yes artificial intelligence is an

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intelligence that comes from something

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um the ideas behind artificial

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um found itself

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uh arriving here in around 1956

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and it became an academic discipline

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um it was something that started to

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become researched talked about and of

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course was given a name and in the years

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um we have had many many different

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huge fronts of optimism

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and and what it could do for us as as a

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that comes along with that too as well

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and the fear comes from a couple of

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engineering side and the other one is a

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deep philosophical fear too as well

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um you know the end of the human race

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and and so forth but

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um expanding on that and why the fear

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part of it is because there's not much

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that we as a society know

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intelligence and and versions of

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and who gets there first

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otherwise known as AGI again we'll

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um once that is achieved it's over

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there is no second place

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everybody else has lost and the reason

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for that is simple

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if you have the best explain the best

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is is this let's get Comfort comfortable

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the if you have a goal

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let's say it's to cure a disease so how

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turn that into reports

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all right per individual how much can

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you get done in 24 hours you know how

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long it takes to read how long you know

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individual years or two or three and

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and books but they are going to do this

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manually they're going to type in

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they're going to compile this

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information then they have to turn

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around and compare notes compare data

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would be to cure a disease

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information that we have at our Disposal

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today this is a classic example of why

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it takes so long to work in medicine and

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there's a lot of brain power that has to

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this would be able to the AGI

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has at its disposal all of the

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that I've just presented that that is

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views that uh and just imagine

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could not only you know the medical

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um and and all of the Labor uh that

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right or being paid or insured

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smoke breaks none of that stuff comes

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that we really need to think about that

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that's one of the advantages

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and then there's the other part to this

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military aspect to this where

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the electrical Grid in the world or you

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world or you could do you could do

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whatever you and literally think through

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and go into production get tested be

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whatever whatever the perfect science

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fiction movie just just give me a script

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give me a screenplay give me a TV series

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average human not not super AI we'll get

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every screenplay not only gangsters

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do this in in seconds but you would have

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happen in seconds

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so think of the movie industry now is it

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putting people out of work of course

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super bright not no just the average

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brain's ability to to think

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to get there now are we there yet we are

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getting closer and closer every single

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day

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um now when we look at our lives

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right now

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uh AI applications which are here

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they're here you can go and use them now

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they're already a part of your life but

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we have uh AI applications today

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including Advanced web searches Now

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search engines like Google and Bing uh

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Google has been working on AI for a very

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long time and so is Microsoft very long

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time and in most cases the engineers and

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the lead engineers and and the people

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behind this

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um have have careers that go back into

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the 1970s and and before that

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um I I was with a Jacques valet a few

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months ago when we sat and and talked uh

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for many hours about artificial

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intelligence and and he's a computer uh

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uh engineer that has been doing this for

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uh since the 1960s and he said that he

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wrote his first AI code in I believe he

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said 1968.

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and so the the the the the part of AI

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that is in in use today and where we are

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today these are people that have been

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working on it for for decades and this

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is now curriculum this is part of the

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academic world and yes you can go to

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college and and study this and and start

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working on this right now this is no

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longer um Isaac Asimov and and iRobot

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and in science fiction it is truly here

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so when we look at uh Google

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that's the United States specifically up

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in Silicon Valley

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um Microsoft you know that's the United

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States China is uh by most reports today

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leading in the field of artificial

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intelligence and again I stress

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um every country whether it's England or

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Israel or even you know Brazil Spain

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Italy Canada the United States Australia

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New Zealand it doesn't matter uh Japan

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uh what country Russia

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um they are all working on artificial

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intelligence and trying to get to uh

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that level of AGI this is what is going

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on now and so when we speak about this

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who is who's managing the shop

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who is overseeing all of this we don't

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know

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as as a culture as citizens of the world

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we know very little about this

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um uh oversight and regulation

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um it is certainly left right now there

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is isn't anything going on in Washington

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DC or or the world courts you know the

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United Nations overseeing artificial

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intelligence and guidelines no they they

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don't exist so we are limited to

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uh corporate ethics military ethics and

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and their own world

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and that's the regulation so the fear

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part of this

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um which has been repeated many times

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over the years is there an off switch

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right and I remember uh I'll say it Neil

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deGrasse Tyson uh famously said once he

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said look man I've uh

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uh the computer starts going out of

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control it's artificially intelligent

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man just unplug it doesn't have to be an

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off switch man just unplug it out of the

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wall

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um I say not so fast that's the one that

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you have in your house but uh if things

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go awry is there and that's that's one

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of the fear factors the other Fear

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Factor

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who is doing it

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and do they have a moral compass

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right well not everybody is clean

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that's the first part but the second

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part is I think that

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in in most cases the these engineers

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these software designers these code

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writers

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um have the same philosophical

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viewpoints and questions that most of us

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have they they aren't any different than

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you and I right and and they want to get

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to this goal of an AG a true AGI

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situation

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um so I think that most are good people

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but that doesn't mean that they're all

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good that there are when we have

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computer systems and we have the

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internet and all of us shouldn't it just

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all just run what do we have we have

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viruses we have viruses are created by

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people with really bad intentions and

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they know how to write code and some of

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it is brilliant and it's the same issues

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not everybody that works for internet

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companies and that that right software

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and you're listening to my voice right

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now and and and watching me all of this

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is done by code writing okay and and

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done by people that are really good and

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they're just like you and I

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but then you have viruses and and really

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bad really bad people out there that are

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probably unemployed and don't have

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anything better to do but that being

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said that is one of the fear factors

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though I mean what if

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what if somebody's just got a bad

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intention what if a country like it

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doesn't matter if I say China or North

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Korea or Russia or anybody else out

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there right uh the Taliban you know get

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gets hold of some AGI software what

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would they do with it right well okay so

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that is something that we need to be

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concerned about

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um I myself

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uh do I

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I this is something that I think about a

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lot do I lose sleep over it in the

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biggest sense of all of this there is

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there's nothing I can do

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right there's nothing that you can do we

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just need to be aware of it and and how

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much of it do we allow into our lives

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this is a problem

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because artificial intelligence is is

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right in everybody's Hip Pocket

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um and everything that you do every

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single day and when I mention Google and

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Bing it's right here on your cell phone

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all right so artificial intelligence is

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is here

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um another aspect of this when you want

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to stop and just kind of look around

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your life

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um there's all kinds of recommendation

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systems out there

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and uh used by YouTube or Netflix right

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Amazon Amazon Prime and and so forth

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where

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I remember

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uh when I first got Netflix and it was

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probably 10 years ago

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right when it first started and and I'm

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compiling some stuff and and I click on

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something and

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whatever and it's my first day or two

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and I remember

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this is like the next day you know and I

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turned on the TV and I turned on Netflix

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and I see recommendations that are like

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wow

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I want to see y'all how what

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how does this is great

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how does I don't even have to

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think of something I don't have to type

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something into the search engine and you

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know uh what it's like with your remote

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control right to to do the manual typing

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in of something right I want to see the

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movie contact

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c-o-n or you just look right down in

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your recommendations it's probably there

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and that is a version of artificial

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intelligence and it's right there on

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Netflix and Netflix has got one of the

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most advanced recommendation systems out

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there

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and uh if you look at YouTube YouTube

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part of Google right part of alphabet

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you look at YouTube and you see what's

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popping up in in your feed and your

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recommendations and from very simple

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things and it seems to know you better

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than you that includes Netflix and when

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you look at Amazon and its ability to

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look ahead and look at your past history

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of not only viewing stuff but ordering

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stuff and searching for stuff and and it

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things pop up and that's artificial

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intelligence and it could be something

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as simple as this and it's so much a

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part of our lives today that we don't

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even stop and notice but let's say you

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are

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um looking for

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a hammer

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really cool hammer and then

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some other

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wall Fastener pops up

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it's something you wouldn't even wait a

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minute yeah I can use that that is

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artificial intelligence and it's right

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there it's a part of your life and it's

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it's working every single day we have

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um other things that are here

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um we have the artificial intelligence

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version of understanding human speech

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and I remember when I got uh it was

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Samsung I got a Samsung phone

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um

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1998. one of the best phones I ever got

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and it had a voice recognition

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um phone book in it now you had to

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uh uh type in and you know build your

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but once you did that

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and I was able to go call Paul

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and that thing would light up I don't

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use it's funny because I don't use Siri

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on my phone anymore I don't use any

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speech activation anything on my phone

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but I was so impressed with that and

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where we are today with speech

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recognition and and how these systems

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work uh you can look no further than uh

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Siri of course and Alexa and voice

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activation and speech recognition all

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over your home

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um all over your computer systems and it

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follows you to your car and it's it's

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everywhere now so smart homes and

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certainly everything tied in with with

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Siri and Alexa which goes to your uh

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electrical systems and your lights and

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your thermostat and and your garage door

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and whatever are the locks on the front

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of your house

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um of course your thermostat and even

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ordering groceries and and things all of

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this delivered to your house and again

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00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:23,220
goes back to Amazon that's another

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00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:27,480
aspect of AI that is right here today we

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have self-driving cars now and the

534
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artificial intelligence that applies to

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that and we'll get more

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um uh deeper into this in in just a bit

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but that's another aspect of Our Lives

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that I think a lot of this

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um have been looking forward to this is

540
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part of the optimistic part of AI then

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there's the danger of self-driving cars

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and and how do you apply artificial

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intelligence to this again if you have

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an AGI system

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thinking like a human being

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and making logical decisions

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philosophical decisions moral decisions

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00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,299
ethical decisions uh uh judicial

549
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decisions right

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um am I going to drive over the speed

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limit right uh I have a task at hand and

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I need to drive over the speed limit

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a self-driving car will make that

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decision for you right do you write that

555
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into the AI I'm willing to pay the

556
00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:35,279
speeding ticket right okay but here's

557
00:28:39,169 --> 00:28:36,779
another example

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self-driving car you're going down the

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road

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and out in front of you uh pops a lady

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with a stroller with a baby in it right

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all right now I need to turn and avoid

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hitting the woman with her baby in the

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stroller that happens to rush out into

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the street but if I turn right there's a

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bus stop with eight people waiting for a

567
00:29:09,850 --> 00:29:06,360
bus and I'm gonna run over them and if I

568
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:09,860
turn left I am going to hit another car

569
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,200
with a teenager driving it and it's a

570
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,640
convertible and it's going to be a

571
00:29:18,769 --> 00:29:17,279
T-bone now I've got three decisions I've

572
00:29:23,510 --> 00:29:18,779
got to make it I've got to make the best

573
00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:23,520
one and an AGI is going to go deeper

574
00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:27,000
than all of this very very quickly it's

575
00:29:31,549 --> 00:29:28,620
going to assess

576
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,559
the 18 year old driving the car in the

577
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,360
convertible that is probably going to

578
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:35,760
die if I go straight I'm going to kill a

579
00:29:40,789 --> 00:29:38,580
mother and her newborn child if I go to

580
00:29:43,250 --> 00:29:40,799
the right I'm going to kill eight people

581
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:43,260
and run them over that are waiting for

582
00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:45,960
the bus that all have families and all

583
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:48,299
of a sudden this assessment is going to

584
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:52,700
be made right and that's that's that's

585
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,279
AGI that's artificial intelligence

586
00:30:01,789 --> 00:29:58,559
applied to a self-driving car we can

587
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:01,799
talk about changing lanes stopping at a

588
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,500
stop light right taking your hands off

589
00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:06,899
the wheel and letting this thing go and

590
00:30:12,649 --> 00:30:10,140
and not crashing into another car and

591
00:30:15,470 --> 00:30:12,659
and getting to my destination safely

592
00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:15,480
that's not what driving a car is all

593
00:30:20,269 --> 00:30:18,419
about a drive driving a car is a right

594
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:20,279
it's a right

595
00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,500
um it's a responsibility and it is also

596
00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:24,360
something that you earn something that

597
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:25,980
you earn

598
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:30,000
with taking a driving test right with

599
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:34,320
with uh learning what safety is and also

600
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:36,539
what is applied to that is somebody that

601
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:37,980
is sitting behind the seat and

602
00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:41,460
understands what it is to have a mother

603
00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:45,000
and a stroller with a baby in it right

604
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:47,159
these are all things that we as humans

605
00:30:53,330 --> 00:30:50,520
take into consideration when driving a

606
00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:53,340
car and how to do it safely and and and

607
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:56,640
again with moral with ethics and then

608
00:31:01,010 --> 00:30:58,200
also thinking about the law and

609
00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:01,020
consequences and everything else well

610
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:02,520
that was so when we talk about

611
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:06,299
self-driving cars it's a much deeper and

612
00:31:10,850 --> 00:31:09,120
I would suggest a philosophical and also

613
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:10,860
existential problem

614
00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:13,559
because there's other issues that apply

615
00:31:17,690 --> 00:31:15,179
to the self-driving car that are outside

616
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:17,700
of it that are out of your control and I

617
00:31:23,330 --> 00:31:19,380
didn't even get into things like weather

618
00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:23,340
and and flat tires and so forth but all

619
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,039
of that applies with self-driving cars

620
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:28,799
and then of course we have

621
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:31,440
um the other more moral and deep

622
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:34,500
philosophical aspects that apply to

623
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:36,539
creative tools

624
00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:42,720
like chat GPT and AI art artificial

625
00:31:47,690 --> 00:31:44,820
intelligent art

626
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:47,700
um automated decision making right that

627
00:31:56,090 --> 00:31:50,960
that all of this uh chat GPT

628
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,100
can chat GPT can apply to just about any

629
00:32:02,990 --> 00:31:59,279
aspect that you want uh something done a

630
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:03,000
specific task but then it gets into

631
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:07,200
things like homework

632
00:32:12,769 --> 00:32:09,720
homework

633
00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:12,779
what did we do with that right and and

634
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:16,820
the colleges and the schools where today

635
00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:19,140
where you don't even learn how to write

636
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,720
anymore everything is uh done on a

637
00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:24,240
computer students you know take iPads

638
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:27,240
with them everywhere they they go uh

639
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:30,659
children today learn how to type on and

640
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,120
access an iPad before they learn the

641
00:32:37,450 --> 00:32:35,760
words Mommy and Daddy this is the world

642
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:37,460
that we live in today

643
00:32:46,909 --> 00:32:43,620
so the the world of AI is part of and

644
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:46,919
dare I say the DNA of all of the

645
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:49,260
generations right now that that are

646
00:32:55,070 --> 00:32:51,779
below us and up and coming they get it

647
00:32:57,970 --> 00:32:55,080
right and they know how to use it and

648
00:33:00,889 --> 00:32:57,980
when you suddenly give access

649
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:00,899
to students

650
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:03,600
um everybody has cheated everybody has

651
00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:04,799
wrote

652
00:33:09,049 --> 00:33:06,840
stuff on the palm of their hand to take

653
00:33:10,909 --> 00:33:09,059
a test right to get through the day

654
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:10,919
don't say that you haven't because you

655
00:33:15,769 --> 00:33:13,620
have and you know looking at somebody

656
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,779
else's work and you got your friend

657
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,240
showing you stuff and to get you through

658
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:20,399
stuff and if you

659
00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:22,140
um uh copying somebody's homework did

660
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:23,640
you do your homework last night yeah man

661
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,039
hey man can I see it yeah okay boom I

662
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:28,320
got to get it done before class okay all

663
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:30,360
right all of that

664
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,740
right suddenly you literally you've got

665
00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:37,080
to write something on the War of 1812

666
00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:38,760
right

667
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:41,640
you got to write a report on Napoleon

668
00:33:48,289 --> 00:33:43,760
and whatever

669
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:48,299
and uh and you just literally

670
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:52,440
open up chat GPT and go

671
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:53,279
um

672
00:33:58,730 --> 00:33:56,760
Napoleon boom done I need I need 2 000

673
00:34:03,769 --> 00:33:58,740
words

674
00:34:05,930 --> 00:34:03,779
done you know write it in my style you

675
00:34:08,329 --> 00:34:05,940
know and then the work is done you you

676
00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:08,339
haven't learned anything you're turning

677
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:10,200
into paper what what did we do with that

678
00:34:15,950 --> 00:34:13,500
that is a serious moral ethical and

679
00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:15,960
philosophical issue that we are dealing

680
00:34:18,889 --> 00:34:18,179
with today and

681
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:18,899
um

682
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:21,419
uh who owns that content

683
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:24,480
and then we have the issue of Art

684
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,040
music

685
00:34:30,589 --> 00:34:29,040
right and you can apply artificial

686
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:30,599
intelligence

687
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:33,240
to a 3D printing system and have

688
00:34:38,810 --> 00:34:36,540
sculptures custom sculpture made

689
00:34:42,109 --> 00:34:38,820
you know do something in the style of

690
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:44,990
and have stuff done

691
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:46,740
so who owns it

692
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,560
so let's say let me give you another

693
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:51,599
example

694
00:34:58,609 --> 00:34:55,200
um this is this is a heavy one

695
00:34:58,619 --> 00:35:03,650
have chat GPT write a song

696
00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:06,890
you have artificial intelligence create

697
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:14,450
you get a hit record

698
00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:17,640
it's not you it's it's chat GPT or some

699
00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:21,660
other AI system who gets the royalties

700
00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:25,260
is it the software engineers

701
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:28,380
that wrote for chat GPT that created it

702
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,260
are they the ones that get the royalties

703
00:35:34,510 --> 00:35:32,400
do you

704
00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:34,520
how does

705
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,320
artificial intelligence get what they

706
00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:39,440
deserve in royalties

707
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:43,740
create what if you know some AI art

708
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:46,260
shows up next to Banksy

709
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:47,520
you know

710
00:35:53,210 --> 00:35:50,760
the streets of of London gets auctioned

711
00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:53,220
for 10 million dollars the most amazing

712
00:35:59,470 --> 00:35:57,960
piece of of uh right and think about

713
00:36:03,770 --> 00:35:59,480
that for a second

714
00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:03,780
these are deep deep questions that need

715
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:05,160
to be addressed

716
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:09,000
right now artificial intelligence is

717
00:36:17,450 --> 00:36:10,980
here

718
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,460
another deep deep philosophical issue is

719
00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:20,400
um artificial intelligence competing at

720
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:23,000
the very highest level

721
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:26,339
uh with chess

722
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:28,260
with go

723
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:34,250
um when

724
00:36:44,089 --> 00:36:39,240
uh the South Korean go world champion

725
00:36:44,829 --> 00:36:44,099
just a kid too just a kid got beat by a

726
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:44,839
computer

727
00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:48,000
and the look world championship and the

728
00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:50,579
look and and go here in the United

729
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:52,260
States we don't get it we don't

730
00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:54,060
understand it you can go watch a

731
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:57,980
documentary or two and you can find a go

732
00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:00,480
in South Korea

733
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:04,380
is bigger than the NFL and the NBA and

734
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:05,940
Major League Baseball in this country

735
00:37:17,210 --> 00:37:12,050
it's like that

736
00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:17,220
and suddenly and to have the the system

737
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:19,800
that beat that South Korean world

738
00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:21,000
champion

739
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:23,700
was not a complex system

740
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:27,119
it learned on the fly it literally

741
00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:29,820
watched his every move

742
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:32,339
closed in and defeated it was it was

743
00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:35,520
brutal to watch it was heartbreaking to

744
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:37,500
watch and that's where we are today

745
00:37:42,109 --> 00:37:39,420
you know I would

746
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:42,119
um venture to guess uh we are days away

747
00:37:49,609 --> 00:37:46,380
from uh there no human will ever win at

748
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:49,619
chess again uh against a computer system

749
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:52,560
no no it just won't happen you can dial

750
00:37:58,849 --> 00:37:55,020
it back okay let's take the difficulty

751
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:58,859
settings down but at Full Tilt Boogie

752
00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:01,920
nah no no never win a chess again

753
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:03,660
now ever

754
00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:04,680
ever

755
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:08,339
and let me give you the reasons why and

756
00:38:13,370 --> 00:38:11,220
this applies to everything across AGI uh

757
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,380
and artificial intelligence remember

758
00:38:17,089 --> 00:38:15,599
what I said about medical research

759
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:17,099
remember what I said about writing a

760
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,800
great screenplay all right

761
00:38:24,829 --> 00:38:22,079
um I have

762
00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:24,839
um uh played against and I did this for

763
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:26,040
a couple of years

764
00:38:32,569 --> 00:38:29,880
um I learned uh Master Level chess

765
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:32,579
um from a chess program and in this

766
00:38:37,790 --> 00:38:35,579
particular chess program that I was

767
00:38:39,950 --> 00:38:37,800
learning from I believe I'm gonna pull

768
00:38:44,089 --> 00:38:39,960
round numbers out but I think they had

769
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,099
the 100 greatest chess matches ever in

770
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,839
the history of Chess they're all there

771
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:47,520
and you can play those specific games

772
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:50,280
and and you can choose your side all

773
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:53,160
right I'm doing all of that manually

774
00:38:57,650 --> 00:38:55,140
I'm learning it I'm learning it I'm

775
00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:57,660
learning it in the world of artificial

776
00:39:03,950 --> 00:38:59,000
intelligence

777
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:03,960
they these systems could learn not only

778
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:07,680
every game every specific move and and

779
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,220
the reasons for or against in every

780
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,440
chess match that was ever played in the

781
00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:15,720
history of the world and it could do

782
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,300
that immediately and while you are

783
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:21,180
contemplating it's already accessing

784
00:39:25,609 --> 00:39:24,300
everything that ever was and that's what

785
00:39:28,430 --> 00:39:25,619
you're playing against

786
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,440
right immediately that kind of brain

787
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:31,440
power you're not doing you're not facing

788
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:33,900
that with Gary Kasparov you're facing

789
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:36,900
one brain AI you're facing the

790
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:39,839
intelligence of all mankind

791
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:42,660
and that's why go which is a very

792
00:39:46,609 --> 00:39:45,540
complex game did what it did that

793
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:46,619
quickly

794
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:49,440
all right so we have that

795
00:39:55,370 --> 00:39:52,320
um I've mentioned AGI

796
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:55,380
many times tonight but uh let's get

797
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:57,240
specifically into this artificial

798
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:01,680
general intelligence AGI is the ability

799
00:40:06,770 --> 00:40:03,780
like I have said for a computer to

800
00:40:10,670 --> 00:40:06,780
understand or learn any task any

801
00:40:12,109 --> 00:40:10,680
intellectual thing that uh human beings

802
00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:12,119
can do

803
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:16,040
that's it just the average human being

804
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:20,640
and the the thought of that it seems

805
00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:22,440
very very simple

806
00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:24,359
the brain

807
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,000
isn't that simple

808
00:40:31,069 --> 00:40:29,040
so are we going to get to this point

809
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:31,079
anytime soon I'm going to discuss more

810
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,119
of that in just a bit how close are we

811
00:40:41,210 --> 00:40:37,800
well we know

812
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:41,220
um uh because of Alan Turing

813
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:45,720
um that there there were a few tests

814
00:40:52,849 --> 00:40:48,720
um and specifically the Turing test

815
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:52,859
um ways to possibly reveal that you are

816
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:56,160
dealing with a computer or a human

817
00:41:02,450 --> 00:41:00,720
today when a chat bot pops up when

818
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:02,460
you're on a website you go over to

819
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,520
Verizon and you're on Microsoft and

820
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:07,920
you're you're doing whatever and then

821
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:10,500
you see it right there Hi how may I help

822
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:12,900
you today that's not a human being

823
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:15,180
that's artificial intelligence that's a

824
00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:17,520
machine learning program and you're

825
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:20,099
going to type something in and as the

826
00:41:27,730 --> 00:41:22,680
days go by right now I'm talking about

827
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:27,740
days as days go by right now chances are

828
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:30,540
artificial intelligence is who you are

829
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,660
talking to not machine learning not

830
00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:35,760
something simple that is going to read

831
00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:37,560
what you're going to type in and try to

832
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:40,760
figure out what uh just from Logistics

833
00:41:46,609 --> 00:41:44,640
and and in a mechanical process that is

834
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,619
going to go through this no no it's

835
00:41:52,370 --> 00:41:49,680
artificial intelligence every day that

836
00:41:55,490 --> 00:41:52,380
goes by this is being implemented more

837
00:41:59,089 --> 00:41:55,500
and more and more so how do you know

838
00:42:01,490 --> 00:41:59,099
right I you don't I

839
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:01,500
um uh I had some issues

840
00:42:08,930 --> 00:42:05,099
that I had to get resolved with uh

841
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:08,940
Microsoft 365. they're they're you know

842
00:42:15,650 --> 00:42:12,079
their office uh program set up right now

843
00:42:18,890 --> 00:42:15,660
and I'm you probably have office 365.

844
00:42:20,510 --> 00:42:18,900
try to make a change to office 365. try

845
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:20,520
to make an addition to it try to take

846
00:42:24,829 --> 00:42:22,320
something away try to do try to ask a

847
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,839
question well jump you there are no

848
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:26,880
phone numbers for Microsoft anymore you

849
00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:29,220
can forget about that part but uh or

850
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:32,460
anybody else an airline try to get

851
00:42:36,530 --> 00:42:34,380
somebody on the phone with an airline

852
00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:36,540
you are going to do it with artificial

853
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:37,980
intelligence and you're going to do with

854
00:42:44,690 --> 00:42:41,460
the chat engine and I sat there with

855
00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:44,700
this chat bot on Microsoft

856
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:47,880
and got what I thought was going to be a

857
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,740
long day was somebody on the phone I

858
00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:51,359
gotta fix pretty quickly and it was

859
00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:52,980
pretty amazing

860
00:42:59,089 --> 00:42:55,260
um how it happened but I sat back and I

861
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,099
said to myself was that a human that was

862
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:02,640
there because that felt like

863
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:04,800
somebody was kind

864
00:43:11,809 --> 00:43:08,280
somebody was nice somebody got it done

865
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:11,819
got it done quickly quickly

866
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,980
quickly not let me put you on hold let

867
00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:15,599
me see what I can do I got to go talk to

868
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,160
somebody hold on let me put you on no

869
00:43:22,690 --> 00:43:19,200
not no no no no no no

870
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,700
and it was two three four minutes of

871
00:43:28,130 --> 00:43:24,480
dealing with

872
00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:28,140
a robot a chatbot

873
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,300
artificial intelligence

874
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,880
and I gotta say it was a pretty good

875
00:43:38,809 --> 00:43:35,280
experience but that's where we are today

876
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:38,819
so how do you know how do you know I

877
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:39,960
didn't

878
00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:43,619
the Turing test is when a machine and a

879
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:44,420
human

880
00:43:49,490 --> 00:43:47,940
both Converse unseen this is the touring

881
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:49,500
test and this was developed you've got

882
00:43:52,849 --> 00:43:51,000
to remember we're going back now to

883
00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:52,859
1950.

884
00:43:59,050 --> 00:43:56,040
Alan Turing was brilliant brilliant but

885
00:44:03,710 --> 00:43:59,060
so his his vision of the touring test

886
00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:03,720
was that you have a computer and a human

887
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:08,579
talking unseen with a second human

888
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:13,560
and the second human must evaluate which

889
00:44:20,569 --> 00:44:17,040
of the two is the computer

890
00:44:23,930 --> 00:44:20,579
right and the winner passes the test if

891
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:23,940
it can fool right the the third the the

892
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,260
the second human the third person here

893
00:44:32,809 --> 00:44:31,200
um very quickly you don't have to no it

894
00:44:35,569 --> 00:44:32,819
because

895
00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:35,579
you should know right

896
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:38,460
and immediately

897
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:40,380
you know if you're listening to a dog

898
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:42,780
bark or a human talk you know instantly

899
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,900
so shouldn't you know the difference

900
00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:48,480
between a human and a computer instantly

901
00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:52,980
and if you don't computer wins

902
00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:54,300
that's right

903
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:57,720
if you can't tell computer wins that's

904
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:00,480
the touring test then we have the coffee

905
00:45:06,410 --> 00:45:04,200
test this was uh from Steve Wozniak and

906
00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:06,420
I use this I'm going to use this more

907
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:08,700
tonight but the coffee test and if

908
00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:09,960
you've never heard of the coffee test

909
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:11,819
from Steve Wozniak and Steve is

910
00:45:17,150 --> 00:45:14,400
absolutely brilliant

911
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:17,160
um this is what a machine I'm going to

912
00:45:23,870 --> 00:45:21,119
say a robot let's just go with an AI

913
00:45:27,650 --> 00:45:23,880
robot an Android The Terminator

914
00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:27,660
is is required to enter an average

915
00:45:33,470 --> 00:45:30,500
American home

916
00:45:35,690 --> 00:45:33,480
wozniak's words not mine and figure out

917
00:45:37,370 --> 00:45:35,700
how to make coffee

918
00:45:40,730 --> 00:45:37,380
it's one of the simplest things to do

919
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,740
right if you're a human and you wake up

920
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,720
in a hotel room you got a coffee machine

921
00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:44,160
there you're gonna you're gonna figure

922
00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:45,660
it out you're gonna get it figured out

923
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:49,619
if you are uh house if you're a house

924
00:45:53,450 --> 00:45:51,960
guest you're you're watching somebody's

925
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,460
house they're out of town and you wake

926
00:45:56,210 --> 00:45:54,960
up on your first day you go down in the

927
00:45:58,490 --> 00:45:56,220
kitchen you want to make a cup of coffee

928
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,500
you're gonna figure it out or you're

929
00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:00,000
gonna figure out that you can't make

930
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:01,800
coffee because there's no coffee there

931
00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:04,500
or there's this something's been missing

932
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,119
coffee filters right you're gonna figure

933
00:46:09,730 --> 00:46:07,920
it out go to the store pick up the

934
00:46:13,130 --> 00:46:09,740
coffee filters come back and make coffee

935
00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:13,140
an average person can figure that out so

936
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,000
back to the Wozniak test

937
00:46:21,470 --> 00:46:17,760
that's what you are going to task this

938
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,480
this AI Android to do because the AI

939
00:46:26,109 --> 00:46:23,760
Android should be able to do all the

940
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:26,119
simple things find the coffee machine

941
00:46:35,089 --> 00:46:31,020
right find the coffee add the water

942
00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:35,099
find a coffee cup to pour it into right

943
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:38,339
maybe cream maybe sugar and and then

944
00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:41,700
Brew the coffee by pushing the proper

945
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:43,380
buttons

946
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:45,440
that's the coffee test

947
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:49,440
as simple as that sounds

948
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,540
that's one way

949
00:46:56,329 --> 00:46:54,480
now we have the robot college student

950
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,339
test I've been talking about this a lot

951
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:59,640
on the show because this is now also

952
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:02,760
become a part of our reality and this

953
00:47:06,770 --> 00:47:04,800
was put forward by Ben gertzel and he's

954
00:47:09,650 --> 00:47:06,780
brilliant when it comes to artificial

955
00:47:12,109 --> 00:47:09,660
intelligence and his version of this is

956
00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:12,119
a machine a computer

957
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:15,060
uh enrolls in a university

958
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:16,319
right

959
00:47:20,990 --> 00:47:19,200
and taking and passing the same classes

960
00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:21,000
that humans would

961
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:24,839
in obtaining a degree and we are there

962
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,960
there are law tests that have been

963
00:47:33,410 --> 00:47:30,720
passed lately and I've talked about it

964
00:47:37,010 --> 00:47:33,420
this is a scare you don't know you know

965
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,020
especially as a university

966
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:39,660
um where so many online courses are

967
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,180
being done today which has been going on

968
00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:45,119
for years but now with with the pandemic

969
00:47:50,750 --> 00:47:47,880
and everything else man uh everything

970
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:50,760
has been offline uh teachers have been

971
00:47:57,530 --> 00:47:55,500
on camera right and so do you know do

972
00:48:00,410 --> 00:47:57,540
you know you see the name

973
00:48:03,290 --> 00:48:00,420
you see the work coming in do you know

974
00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:03,300
if it's even human anymore chances are

975
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:05,640
you probably wouldn't

976
00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:09,359
think about that and get a degree

977
00:48:13,970 --> 00:48:11,700
there's again deep moral and

978
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:13,980
philosophical issues with that

979
00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:18,480
right if if an AI Android bot or even

980
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:20,460
something that exists just on a computer

981
00:48:26,030 --> 00:48:22,619
doesn't even have to have a physical

982
00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:26,040
robot body but um do they have rights

983
00:48:32,690 --> 00:48:29,579
can they can they get a degree can you

984
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:32,700
have an AI bot and you've named it

985
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:35,520
whatever but Ben

986
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:38,280
um that is uh certified

987
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:42,960
right as a PhD an M.A a ba maybe it's

988
00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:46,740
even a BMF you don't even know right

989
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:48,180
you don't have to meet these people

990
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,260
anymore

991
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:50,880
so how would you know the difference and

992
00:48:57,530 --> 00:48:54,900
that is the robot College test we are

993
00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:57,540
now this is today this isn't science

994
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:01,140
fiction this isn't the Future these are

995
00:49:06,410 --> 00:49:03,060
things that need to be addressed today

996
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:06,420
because they are happening

997
00:49:11,870 --> 00:49:09,060
um then you have the employment test by

998
00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:11,880
Nils Nilsson he's not with us anymore

999
00:49:18,589 --> 00:49:13,800
but he was great

1000
00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:18,599
um where you have a machine a robot that

1001
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,859
performs an economically important job

1002
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:25,680
all right and do that job at least as

1003
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:28,319
well as humans do we have this now we

1004
00:49:34,370 --> 00:49:31,740
have ai that is replacing lawyers and

1005
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:34,380
attorneys and DA's and District

1006
00:49:39,050 --> 00:49:37,319
Attorneys even judges whether it's being

1007
00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:39,060
applied to courts

1008
00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:42,180
uh now it would uh be used in a murder

1009
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:43,859
trial

1010
00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:45,480
soon

1011
00:49:50,690 --> 00:49:48,599
sure could you give the option to

1012
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:50,700
somebody that is accused of a crime

1013
00:49:55,730 --> 00:49:53,400
traffic ticket or

1014
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:55,740
you know strong arm burglary I don't

1015
00:49:59,690 --> 00:49:57,720
know Murder and go okay you have a

1016
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,700
choice

1017
00:50:04,450 --> 00:50:03,119
judge he's a hanging judge this guy's

1018
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:04,460
rough

1019
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:07,680
trial by jury

1020
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:09,000
or

1021
00:50:20,089 --> 00:50:16,910
what if you gave the accused a choice

1022
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,099
you have to abide by it it it's here

1023
00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:22,319
it's now where it's being used now you

1024
00:50:27,230 --> 00:50:24,359
don't have a choice but is that possible

1025
00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:27,240
and if we are there

1026
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:31,020
think about it now again who pays who

1027
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:37,730
could you be represented by an AI

1028
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,180
attorney

1029
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:41,040
All Right lawsuit

1030
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:43,740
right AI attorney

1031
00:50:48,589 --> 00:50:45,720
brings a lawsuit

1032
00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:48,599
paper you get served

1033
00:50:56,690 --> 00:50:53,569
these are deep deep questions and

1034
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,700
they're all here they are here today now

1035
00:51:00,589 --> 00:50:58,559
um so talking about I've got to take a

1036
00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:00,599
break here in just a second uh talking

1037
00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:03,960
about strong AI so I think that we all

1038
00:51:11,390 --> 00:51:08,280
understand AGI and and the goals of

1039
00:51:14,569 --> 00:51:11,400
getting to it but then we have strong AI

1040
00:51:18,049 --> 00:51:14,579
uh again I I keep saying uh

1041
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:18,059
philosophical and existential and and

1042
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:20,460
these considerations moral ethical

1043
00:51:25,609 --> 00:51:23,640
judgments and decisions that have have

1044
00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:25,619
to be made who is making these decisions

1045
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,040
well when it comes to strong AI which is

1046
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,680
different from artificial general

1047
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:34,319
intelligence strong AI

1048
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:38,160
may be further out than AGI

1049
00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:41,579
AGI it's it's possible that we are here

1050
00:51:45,710 --> 00:51:44,099
today we just somebody hasn't revealed

1051
00:51:49,069 --> 00:51:45,720
it yet

1052
00:51:51,950 --> 00:51:49,079
um but uh strong AI our computer

1053
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:51,960
programs and computer systems

1054
00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:55,859
that experience sentience or

1055
00:52:01,490 --> 00:51:57,180
consciousness

1056
00:52:06,349 --> 00:52:01,500
you know maybe even have a soul

1057
00:52:09,950 --> 00:52:06,359
that's a strong AI now if we stop right

1058
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:09,960
there for a second and and we consider

1059
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,030
I don't think at least not right now

1060
00:52:21,309 --> 00:52:18,720
that a human

1061
00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:21,319
a code writer an engineer

1062
00:52:26,450 --> 00:52:23,900
could program

1063
00:52:28,430 --> 00:52:26,460
lines of code

1064
00:52:30,589 --> 00:52:28,440
for consciousness

1065
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:30,599
for true sentience

1066
00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:34,079
I don't think it's possible not yet

1067
00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:36,300
it's too complex

1068
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:39,540
as we look at it

1069
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:42,480
could AGI

1070
00:52:47,569 --> 00:52:45,680
write its own code to give it

1071
00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:47,579
self-consciousness and figure out a way

1072
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:48,680
to get that done

1073
00:52:54,290 --> 00:52:51,300
there's there's another part to this

1074
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:54,300
that I think we need to address

1075
00:53:02,210 --> 00:52:58,200
because we look at K locks which are

1076
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:02,220
okay like kloc is a thousand lines of

1077
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:04,740
code right K being a thousand loc lines

1078
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:07,140
of code K locks how many k locks how

1079
00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:09,240
many light thousand lines of code you

1080
00:53:14,450 --> 00:53:10,980
know writing in blocks and that's what

1081
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,460
uh computer programmers uh go to do is

1082
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:16,559
to be able to write so many k locks in a

1083
00:53:19,730 --> 00:53:18,180
night how many k locks you write last

1084
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:19,740
time I did eight I did eight thousand

1085
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,240
lines of code last time pretty good I

1086
00:53:26,809 --> 00:53:24,480
did 10. I did 10K like I did 20 K locks

1087
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:26,819
how many k locks

1088
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:29,640
would it take to write

1089
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:32,460
sentience or Consciousness into an AGI

1090
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:35,880
system and make it strong AI

1091
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:40,260
it may not be thousands of lines of code

1092
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:41,700
what if there's something really simple

1093
00:53:51,950 --> 00:53:48,290
think about that

1094
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:51,960
a AGI would take a a look at this if

1095
00:53:57,470 --> 00:53:54,480
given the task and I'm sure that you

1096
00:53:59,569 --> 00:53:57,480
know how would you write

1097
00:54:02,030 --> 00:53:59,579
the code

1098
00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:02,040
for consciousness

1099
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:03,960
right and you see that spit out what

1100
00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:06,960
it's four lines yeah because it's going

1101
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:11,700
to work on itself Consciousness is uh

1102
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,180
those simple abilities of of obviously

1103
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,760
sadness and happiness and you know of

1104
00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:20,480
course crying and laughter and and and

1105
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:23,460
feeling and touch and sense and taste

1106
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:26,579
and smell and and and hearing and and

1107
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:29,040
then getting the emotional uh side of

1108
00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:32,400
that apply to and and getting to Joy or

1109
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,819
getting to sadness and and all of that

1110
00:54:41,089 --> 00:54:37,920
you know Melancholy and getting to those

1111
00:54:43,250 --> 00:54:41,099
feelings that that humans have that give

1112
00:54:46,130 --> 00:54:43,260
us emotions that give us the reason for

1113
00:54:47,809 --> 00:54:46,140
living right all of that that's

1114
00:54:53,329 --> 00:54:47,819
consciousness

1115
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:53,339
so with strong AI versus AGI

1116
00:54:58,609 --> 00:54:55,640
let's say

1117
00:55:00,170 --> 00:54:58,619
you want to buy a new car and you tell

1118
00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:00,180
AGI

1119
00:55:07,609 --> 00:55:03,300
to pick you out a new car and and which

1120
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:07,619
is the best one now what about color

1121
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right now color it seems like a simple

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00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,579
decision but it's not humans think

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00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:17,280
differently so when when they want to

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dress or or what drives them to decorate

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00:55:26,750 --> 00:55:22,680
their house a certain way or whatever

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00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:26,760
this is where computer systems are today

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00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:28,380
fail

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experience of being a human being

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and what do I mean by that

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00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:42,480
all right maybe when you were a kid

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00:55:50,569 --> 00:55:45,920
your neighbor had a blue car

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and it was never washed and you went

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00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:53,400
over and would touch that car and feel

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00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:55,619
the dirt and had this

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00:56:00,609 --> 00:55:59,040
um this patina to it maybe it was a

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vintage

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Mustang

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you know and it had a patina to it it

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had this look to it and there was this

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thing so when you

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see that color today whether it's in

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clothes or furniture or anything you

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00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:17,880
have this emotional thing that that

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00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:19,800
comes over you

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00:56:25,790 --> 00:56:23,099
and that and it could be a song that you

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heard and whatever it and you have this

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00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:29,000
emotional thing that's the part where

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00:56:36,530 --> 00:56:33,780
systems today fail because the brain has

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00:56:38,450 --> 00:56:36,540
that and it has the ability to make

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00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:38,460
decisions that are based on emotion not

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00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:42,420
on economics not on the availability not

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00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:46,559
on what is the most liked car color what

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00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:48,720
is the most disliked car color or

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00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:51,300
clothes or whatever no we make our

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00:56:57,130 --> 00:56:54,720
decisions based on other things

1156
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:57,140
that's it that's what makes us human

1157
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:01,440
right and so programming that it sounds

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00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:04,680
complex we're not there yet

1159
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:08,819
right and here's here's the deal could

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00:57:11,450 --> 00:57:10,260
it just be four simple lines of code

1161
00:57:14,270 --> 00:57:11,460
could it be a hundred lines of code

1162
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:14,280
could it be something crazily it's

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00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:18,240
simple and beautiful some of the most

1164
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:21,240
um beautiful math uh the some of the

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00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:24,540
most elegant code out there isn't a

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00:57:29,569 --> 00:57:27,300
million lines of code right some of the

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00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:29,579
most beautiful beautiful poetry is a

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00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:30,780
couple of lines some of the most

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00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:33,720
beautiful words that you know very very

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00:57:37,970 --> 00:57:34,740
simple

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00:57:40,910 --> 00:57:37,980
and it could be just that some of the

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00:57:43,069 --> 00:57:40,920
most brilliant code out there is very

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00:57:44,569 --> 00:57:43,079
elegantly

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00:57:47,870 --> 00:57:44,579
shortened

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00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:47,880
it's brief and it's to the point

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00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:52,800
and if AGI gets here

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00:57:59,569 --> 00:57:56,280
then it could be task with giving itself

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00:58:02,390 --> 00:57:59,579
Consciousness and and sentience and

1179
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,400
that's that's part of the danger

1180
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:04,559
um when it comes to artificial

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00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:07,200
intelligence what do we do if emotions

1182
00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:09,119
come into play

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00:58:14,210 --> 00:58:12,420
what do we do with a computer that has

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00:58:17,930 --> 00:58:14,220
consciousness

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00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:17,940
because at that point do computers

1186
00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:21,300
do robots have rights

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00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,940
just like you and I

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00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:25,680
right because at that point they're

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00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:29,339
they're not any different

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00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,180
right is it is it morally acceptable

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00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,520
you come home and you have a bad day at

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00:58:38,990 --> 00:58:36,480
work

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00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:39,000
and you come home and you're sentient

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robot

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um is cleaning your house and folding

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your laundry right and you've had a bad

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day and you come home and slap your

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robot around and kick it and and and and

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do you go to prison

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00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:01,319
does that robot have rights

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00:59:06,349 --> 00:59:03,299
think about that

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00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,359
a sentient conscious

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00:59:10,849 --> 00:59:08,160
being

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00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:10,859
what is the difference between us and

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Them

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00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,760
all of these are are deep they're so

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00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:17,040
existential these these things that that

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00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:20,099
are out there they're intangibles that

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00:59:26,329 --> 00:59:22,260
things have to be considered that are

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00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:26,339
are going to affect us so with that I am

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00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:28,140
going to take a quick break I've got a

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00:59:32,930 --> 00:59:30,420
lot more to cover artificial

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00:59:35,210 --> 00:59:32,940
intelligence is the subject tonight I

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00:59:37,130 --> 00:59:35,220
mean Timmy church this is Fade to block

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am your host Jimmy church and tonight we

1304
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:11,040
are discussing artificial intelligence

1305
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:12,240
um this is something that I've

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01:03:19,490 --> 01:03:15,599
researched very very deeply I continue

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01:03:23,809 --> 01:03:19,500
to do I've been fascinated with it if we

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01:03:26,450 --> 01:03:23,819
go back and and look at you know Stanley

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01:03:28,670 --> 01:03:26,460
Kubrick Steven Spielberg's uh movie

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01:03:31,370 --> 01:03:28,680
artificial intelligence I think it's a

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01:03:33,470 --> 01:03:31,380
really great example of of where we

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01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:33,480
could be because

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01:03:40,010 --> 01:03:36,540
um the uh and and where we are going I

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01:03:44,809 --> 01:03:40,020
started to excuse me discuss

1315
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:44,819
Consciousness and sentience and all of

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01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:48,960
that uh involves our our brain and I'm

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01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:51,000
going to get further into what

1318
01:03:57,049 --> 01:03:54,000
Consciousness is tonight and and

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01:03:58,910 --> 01:03:57,059
sentience and of course uh how it deals

1320
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:58,920
with the human brain and how we're

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01:04:02,450 --> 01:04:01,200
trying to mimic the human brain when it

1322
01:04:06,049 --> 01:04:02,460
comes to artificial additional

1323
01:04:09,950 --> 01:04:06,059
intelligence and computers but when I

1324
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:09,960
say that we are moving fast today there

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01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:12,960
is an artificial intelligence AI news

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01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:15,359
report Special Report scary report fear

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porn report every single day

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01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:21,000
um like I announced earlier Bard was

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01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:22,500
introduced today and we're going to see

1330
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:26,220
more and more of this and now I don't

1331
01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:33,950
chat GPT gpt3

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01:04:41,510 --> 01:04:39,720
was developed by open AI in 2020

1333
01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:41,520
that's it

1334
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,260
and it's everywhere today

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01:04:50,270 --> 01:04:48,480
um you can go you can access it yourself

1336
01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:50,280
right now

1337
01:04:56,569 --> 01:04:54,839
it is everywhere and to think that

1338
01:05:00,349 --> 01:04:56,579
um having

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01:05:01,609 --> 01:05:00,359
um it now which was all as as the flurry

1340
01:05:04,250 --> 01:05:01,619
started

1341
01:05:05,089 --> 01:05:04,260
earlier this month and it it came so

1342
01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:05,099
fast

1343
01:05:09,410 --> 01:05:08,280
suddenly uh Microsoft announces well

1344
01:05:11,089 --> 01:05:09,420
it's going to be in bing it's going to

1345
01:05:13,130 --> 01:05:11,099
be in word it's going to be in Excel

1346
01:05:14,809 --> 01:05:13,140
it's going to be part of Office 365 in

1347
01:05:16,490 --> 01:05:14,819
fact it's already there

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01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:16,500
um you need help writing your email

1349
01:05:22,250 --> 01:05:19,740
answering your email doing whatever you

1350
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,260
need to do it's already here it's there

1351
01:05:26,329 --> 01:05:24,720
it's in our search engines you can't

1352
01:05:31,069 --> 01:05:26,339
turn it off

1353
01:05:34,849 --> 01:05:31,079
it's there and Google is doing the exact

1354
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:34,859
same thing across its platform

1355
01:05:41,809 --> 01:05:38,640
every aspect of it Google

1356
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:41,819
um and Microsoft and Apple are involved

1357
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,119
in every part of your life all day long

1358
01:05:50,089 --> 01:05:47,520
you think you want to turn something off

1359
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:50,099
and you can walk away no this it it

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01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:52,920
follows you you turn off your computers

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01:05:56,930 --> 01:05:54,900
you sign out of your email and you go

1362
01:06:00,170 --> 01:05:56,940
and get in your car Google is following

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01:06:03,410 --> 01:06:00,180
you Android Google

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um all of that runs all of the Smart

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Systems everything that you it's all

1366
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:09,839
there it's all data that's shared period

1367
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:13,920
it goes right into the AI world

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01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:16,799
um I had said five years ago and it was

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a kind of a warning shot

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01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,440
but I I meant it then and I mean it now

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computers

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01:06:31,849 --> 01:06:29,640
AI uh Amazon Google Apple they know more

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01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:31,859
about you than you do

1374
01:06:35,690 --> 01:06:34,079
the data collection that is happening

1375
01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:35,700
today

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01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,280
um and with AI and machine learning

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01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:40,559
applied to it is the most important

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resource right now on this planet it's

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the most sold that's it and it's the

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obvious stuff it's consumers they want

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you to buy more right

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stores want to sell more

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that's it that's that's what drives the

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world you've got to grow the economy

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you've got to make things bigger and

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richer how do you do that they do that

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with us

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that's it it's that simple

1389
01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:12,539
so the most important resource is your

1390
01:07:18,829 --> 01:07:15,660
information and your habits and how to

1391
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,839
get you to buy more how to get you to

1392
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:20,400
buy something that you didn't even think

1393
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,740
about buying how to get you to buy

1394
01:07:28,609 --> 01:07:25,200
something that you didn't want

1395
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,619
that is all part of the game today and

1396
01:07:34,430 --> 01:07:31,200
that's where we are at

1397
01:07:37,309 --> 01:07:34,440
um uh last year deep mind again I keep

1398
01:07:39,289 --> 01:07:37,319
going back to deepmind developed gato a

1399
01:07:42,849 --> 01:07:39,299
general purpose system capable of

1400
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,859
Performing more than 600 different tasks

1401
01:07:52,430 --> 01:07:44,880
right now

1402
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,440
Consciousness and we talk about you know

1403
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:54,480
what sentience is

1404
01:07:59,569 --> 01:07:57,599
um and one of the questions I have for

1405
01:08:03,230 --> 01:07:59,579
just about everybody

1406
01:08:04,670 --> 01:08:03,240
is is consciousness physical or

1407
01:08:07,789 --> 01:08:04,680
non-physical

1408
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,799
it's a very heavy question it's it's a

1409
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:09,119
deep question

1410
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:12,720
where does Consciousness start

1411
01:08:19,610 --> 01:08:15,839
right is is it just out there

1412
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:19,620
and then enters something or is it part

1413
01:08:24,829 --> 01:08:22,319
of every single particle in the universe

1414
01:08:27,169 --> 01:08:24,839
every particle has got a little piece of

1415
01:08:30,590 --> 01:08:27,179
Consciousness in it so when I talk about

1416
01:08:33,470 --> 01:08:30,600
it does software need to be written to

1417
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:33,480
give AI consciousness

1418
01:08:39,470 --> 01:08:36,960
um there are many physicists out there

1419
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:39,480
right now that will have this argument

1420
01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:42,120
that Consciousness is physical first

1421
01:08:47,870 --> 01:08:46,140
it's not a non-physical situation that

1422
01:08:49,610 --> 01:08:47,880
every particle has a little bit of

1423
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:49,620
Consciousness in it and as you

1424
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:51,540
accumulate particles and you mask them

1425
01:08:57,289 --> 01:08:54,000
together Consciousness grows and then

1426
01:08:59,570 --> 01:08:57,299
there it is hence the brain that's why

1427
01:09:03,110 --> 01:08:59,580
there's whole brain emulation going on

1428
01:09:04,189 --> 01:09:03,120
right now so if that's the case and you

1429
01:09:07,789 --> 01:09:04,199
have

1430
01:09:10,669 --> 01:09:07,799
a server farm full of thousands of

1431
01:09:12,709 --> 01:09:10,679
servers that's also a lot of atoms

1432
01:09:14,570 --> 01:09:12,719
it's a lot of particles the same

1433
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,580
particles and the same atoms that you

1434
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:17,040
and I are made of in our brains

1435
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,000
it's the same particles so is there an

1436
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:23,759
accumulation of Consciousness that is

1437
01:09:27,769 --> 01:09:25,560
happening out there and then you you

1438
01:09:30,050 --> 01:09:27,779
have a scale and suddenly the scale is

1439
01:09:33,289 --> 01:09:30,060
tipped where the particles get big

1440
01:09:36,490 --> 01:09:33,299
enough and boom the software that is

1441
01:09:41,689 --> 01:09:36,500
running out and it's just

1442
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:41,699
ah I'm uh I'm a species

1443
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:44,460
I'm as real as you

1444
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:48,000
and it suddenly becomes conscious

1445
01:09:53,630 --> 01:09:51,600
not because of coding that was written

1446
01:09:55,550 --> 01:09:53,640
K locks no

1447
01:09:58,970 --> 01:09:55,560
it's an accumulation of particles and

1448
01:10:02,209 --> 01:09:58,980
then physicists have their way with this

1449
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:02,219
then it's inevitable isn't it and then

1450
01:10:07,610 --> 01:10:03,960
you turn around

1451
01:10:09,169 --> 01:10:07,620
and connect everything via fiber optic

1452
01:10:13,010 --> 01:10:09,179
cables

1453
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,020
all over this planet and suddenly every

1454
01:10:19,010 --> 01:10:15,360
computer and every server farm and every

1455
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:19,020
data bank and everything all of this is

1456
01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:21,360
connected what if it does become

1457
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:25,380
just one big conscious living thing

1458
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:29,360
think about that without any code

1459
01:10:36,649 --> 01:10:32,760
who is thinking about this who is

1460
01:10:39,229 --> 01:10:36,659
considering this and is there a way to

1461
01:10:40,970 --> 01:10:39,239
back out of it if it does happen or is

1462
01:10:43,130 --> 01:10:40,980
it simply just too late and there's

1463
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:43,140
nothing that you can do

1464
01:10:47,330 --> 01:10:45,120
one of the examples of this when we're

1465
01:10:50,990 --> 01:10:47,340
talking about whole brain emulation

1466
01:10:54,290 --> 01:10:51,000
and you are uh you know that's your goal

1467
01:10:57,290 --> 01:10:54,300
right to design this system and you turn

1468
01:10:59,689 --> 01:10:57,300
around and and we make logical decisions

1469
01:11:02,090 --> 01:10:59,699
right we make we think with logic and

1470
01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:02,100
then we throw in some emotion and maybe

1471
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:05,400
some childhood trauma into our decision

1472
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:09,840
making right okay so with with that

1473
01:11:16,430 --> 01:11:13,260
and you tell like right now here in

1474
01:11:18,410 --> 01:11:16,440
Southern California specifically uh

1475
01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:18,420
where I live here in Palmdale it has

1476
01:11:23,689 --> 01:11:20,940
rained for nearly two months it has

1477
01:11:25,790 --> 01:11:23,699
snowed in it's raining right now look it

1478
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,800
up look up Palmdale you will see that it

1479
01:11:30,350 --> 01:11:27,840
is indeed raining and it's cold here

1480
01:11:32,450 --> 01:11:30,360
we've been in the middle of a drought

1481
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:32,460
all right all of the reservoirs dried up

1482
01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:36,000
we're the the the the West Coast in

1483
01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:38,580
general is just dry the Lakes there's no

1484
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,460
water here and all of the sudden it's

1485
01:11:46,430 --> 01:11:43,920
raining every single day now could it be

1486
01:11:48,590 --> 01:11:46,440
Could It Be I'm just suggesting

1487
01:11:50,209 --> 01:11:48,600
something here where

1488
01:11:52,550 --> 01:11:50,219
um something was pumped into the system

1489
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,560
man we got to fix the drought in

1490
01:11:57,470 --> 01:11:55,320
Southern California fires up whatever's

1491
01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:57,480
going on in the sky and

1492
01:12:02,149 --> 01:11:59,699
some weather manipulation technology

1493
01:12:03,290 --> 01:12:02,159
comes into play I I'm not too but

1494
01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:03,300
suddenly

1495
01:12:08,570 --> 01:12:05,540
it's we've had two months of rain

1496
01:12:10,669 --> 01:12:08,580
drought's over water issues are over

1497
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:10,679
water emergencies are over yeah we have

1498
01:12:16,930 --> 01:12:13,920
flooding right right we have all of

1499
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:16,940
these other issues mudslides

1500
01:12:23,390 --> 01:12:20,460
streets collapsing bridges falling over

1501
01:12:25,850 --> 01:12:23,400
we have all of that that's the crazy

1502
01:12:29,090 --> 01:12:25,860
part about it now what if you turn

1503
01:12:31,010 --> 01:12:29,100
around and you tell ai ai is running

1504
01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:31,020
everything and you've got an AGI system

1505
01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:33,960
and everything is cool and and we're in

1506
01:12:39,410 --> 01:12:36,900
the middle of climate change and you

1507
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:39,420
tell AGI you go hey all right so check

1508
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:40,640
this out

1509
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:43,199
uh we have pollution

1510
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:46,800
we have global warming Antarctica is

1511
01:12:50,990 --> 01:12:48,060
melting

1512
01:12:54,050 --> 01:12:51,000
we need to fix sea levels are rising we

1513
01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:54,060
need to fix all of this fix it

1514
01:13:05,149 --> 01:13:02,090
it fixed the pollution problem

1515
01:13:08,530 --> 01:13:05,159
right it fixed the Antarctica ice

1516
01:13:11,090 --> 01:13:08,540
melting it fixed the sea level rise

1517
01:13:14,209 --> 01:13:11,100
fixed all of that

1518
01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:14,219
sealed up the hole in the ozone and and

1519
01:13:18,130 --> 01:13:17,100
because humans were the problem but AGI

1520
01:13:20,689 --> 01:13:18,140
doesn't

1521
01:13:22,970 --> 01:13:20,699
use what do you mean I did the wrong

1522
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:22,980
thing you told me to fix the problem I

1523
01:13:27,229 --> 01:13:25,560
did there's no pollution

1524
01:13:29,930 --> 01:13:27,239
right

1525
01:13:31,250 --> 01:13:29,940
I saved the world didn't save humans

1526
01:13:33,890 --> 01:13:31,260
were the problem

1527
01:13:37,010 --> 01:13:33,900
that's one of the issues

1528
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:37,020
and it's a real issue

1529
01:13:42,830 --> 01:13:38,880
talk about a deep philosophical

1530
01:13:44,990 --> 01:13:42,840
situation because when it comes to whole

1531
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:45,000
brain emulation I brought this up a few

1532
01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:46,860
times tonight

1533
01:13:53,810 --> 01:13:49,860
um the attempts to do this

1534
01:13:56,030 --> 01:13:53,820
are still ongoing there are a few

1535
01:13:58,250 --> 01:13:56,040
different computer systems not just one

1536
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:58,260
there are a few uh in the world right

1537
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,000
now

1538
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:02,960
um that are attempting

1539
01:14:07,550 --> 01:14:06,480
to with banks and Banks and banks of

1540
01:14:12,169 --> 01:14:07,560
computers

1541
01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:12,179
to uh replicate every neuron and every

1542
01:14:21,050 --> 01:14:15,179
connection that is in the brain

1543
01:14:24,770 --> 01:14:21,060
all right so the idea behind this is to

1544
01:14:27,169 --> 01:14:24,780
um have if you have the same synapse the

1545
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:27,179
same on and off the same ones and zeros

1546
01:14:30,350 --> 01:14:29,280
the same electricity the same actions

1547
01:14:32,270 --> 01:14:30,360
happening

1548
01:14:35,450 --> 01:14:32,280
in the human brain but it is done

1549
01:14:37,970 --> 01:14:35,460
through computer systems that we should

1550
01:14:40,250 --> 01:14:37,980
be able to have a human brain right now

1551
01:14:42,290 --> 01:14:40,260
I'm talking about warehouses of

1552
01:14:45,050 --> 01:14:42,300
computers right now computers are

1553
01:14:46,610 --> 01:14:45,060
getting better faster smaller and as

1554
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,620
this continues are we going to get

1555
01:14:51,470 --> 01:14:48,239
closer to that more on that in just a

1556
01:14:55,310 --> 01:14:51,480
bit but the whole brain emulation

1557
01:14:58,250 --> 01:14:55,320
um uh has been discussed uh for many

1558
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,260
many years it's it's being worked on but

1559
01:15:02,990 --> 01:15:00,480
it's a way to achieve a general

1560
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:03,000
intelligent action

1561
01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:08,280
um with uh a brain emulation circuitry

1562
01:15:11,149 --> 01:15:09,719
and software

1563
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:11,159
right because you have to have the

1564
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:13,560
hardware to go with the software

1565
01:15:20,510 --> 01:15:17,760
um a low-level brain model is built by

1566
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:20,520
uh there's another way to approach this

1567
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:24,960
and that is to scan the brain so just

1568
01:15:29,870 --> 01:15:27,600
like you have emulation

1569
01:15:31,970 --> 01:15:29,880
software that's running now right you're

1570
01:15:33,950 --> 01:15:31,980
playing a video game I I like driving

1571
01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:33,960
games so you're playing that's an

1572
01:15:39,850 --> 01:15:36,600
emulation of a car

1573
01:15:43,370 --> 01:15:39,860
right so you have the weight the gravity

1574
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:43,380
uh the breaking the motion the forces

1575
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:46,560
tire pressure size of the engine the

1576
01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:49,679
feel of how many cylinders all of that

1577
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:52,140
stuff goes into play when when doing

1578
01:15:57,169 --> 01:15:53,820
that or a flying or whatever that's

1579
01:16:00,350 --> 01:15:57,179
emulation another version of emulation

1580
01:16:01,970 --> 01:16:00,360
is say I've got compressors here I've

1581
01:16:03,169 --> 01:16:01,980
got Hardware compressors that are

1582
01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:03,179
sitting right there but you can have

1583
01:16:08,209 --> 01:16:06,360
compressor emulation circuitry that runs

1584
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:08,219
on software that acts as a compressor I

1585
01:16:13,610 --> 01:16:11,040
have guitar amps back here that emulate

1586
01:16:16,130 --> 01:16:13,620
other guitar amps it's one guitar amp

1587
01:16:18,770 --> 01:16:16,140
but it's got 50 guitar amps in it and

1588
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:18,780
you select what model what year what

1589
01:16:23,930 --> 01:16:21,360
type what thing you dial it up and it's

1590
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:23,940
emulating uh different guitar amps this

1591
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:26,400
is everywhere today so how would you

1592
01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:29,040
emulate a brain

1593
01:16:36,350 --> 01:16:32,520
right you would scan the brain you would

1594
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:36,360
map the brain you would have uh the

1595
01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:39,719
entire biological brain in complete

1596
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:43,980
detail and copying it into a computer

1597
01:16:50,930 --> 01:16:48,480
system and storing it there

1598
01:16:53,649 --> 01:16:50,940
emulation happens every single day we

1599
01:16:58,250 --> 01:16:53,659
are emulating everything

1600
01:17:01,790 --> 01:16:58,260
right it's it's it's it's everywhere

1601
01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:01,800
um uh emulation of speech right I speak

1602
01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,540
into this microphone and I want to sound

1603
01:17:07,790 --> 01:17:05,820
like somebody else and it recognizes

1604
01:17:11,209 --> 01:17:07,800
that and and now I'm speaking like

1605
01:17:13,010 --> 01:17:11,219
Richard Nixon right or or an alien or

1606
01:17:17,450 --> 01:17:13,020
what have you right I can sing like

1607
01:17:19,130 --> 01:17:17,460
Barry White so that's that's emulation

1608
01:17:21,890 --> 01:17:19,140
now

1609
01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:21,900
um a computer that runs that simulation

1610
01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:26,520
model so faithful that it will operate

1611
01:17:34,189 --> 01:17:30,860
the same way as the original brain and

1612
01:17:37,669 --> 01:17:34,199
for all intents that we are talking

1613
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:37,679
about here it would be indistinguishable

1614
01:17:43,070 --> 01:17:39,300
that you wouldn't be able to tell

1615
01:17:44,209 --> 01:17:43,080
theoretically this can work and this can

1616
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:44,219
happen

1617
01:17:51,950 --> 01:17:48,960
the uh uh the discussion of this

1618
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,960
um and comparing it to strong Ai and

1619
01:17:56,689 --> 01:17:54,480
suddenly if we do get to that level is

1620
01:17:58,729 --> 01:17:56,699
something sentient

1621
01:18:01,550 --> 01:17:58,739
um neuroimaging right now and those

1622
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:01,560
Technologies are getting really Advanced

1623
01:18:06,770 --> 01:18:03,840
and they could deliver

1624
01:18:09,350 --> 01:18:06,780
um something pretty rapidly and it's all

1625
01:18:10,970 --> 01:18:09,360
dependent on on the speed of computers

1626
01:18:13,130 --> 01:18:10,980
and the size of computers and where

1627
01:18:15,530 --> 01:18:13,140
we're at and quantum computers is

1628
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:15,540
another part of this that is getting

1629
01:18:20,390 --> 01:18:17,840
really really close but Ray kurzwell

1630
01:18:22,250 --> 01:18:20,400
wrote about this in his book The

1631
01:18:25,810 --> 01:18:22,260
Singularity is near

1632
01:18:29,950 --> 01:18:25,820
and what he had done and this is where

1633
01:18:35,870 --> 01:18:29,960
uh we are you know where we are at today

1634
01:18:40,270 --> 01:18:35,880
is that he thinks that a map of a brain

1635
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:40,280
could be done of sufficient quality that

1636
01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:43,280
it will be available

1637
01:18:48,950 --> 01:18:46,620
on the time scale now think about what

1638
01:18:50,689 --> 01:18:48,960
I'm going to tell you

1639
01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:50,699
this is deep

1640
01:18:59,450 --> 01:18:55,739
when we require when we get the required

1641
01:19:02,270 --> 01:18:59,460
level of computer technology

1642
01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:02,280
when we get there when we scale down and

1643
01:19:09,229 --> 01:19:05,580
scale up the speed and and we are able

1644
01:19:12,169 --> 01:19:09,239
to have a computer system of the right

1645
01:19:14,030 --> 01:19:12,179
power when we get to that point we will

1646
01:19:17,330 --> 01:19:14,040
be right there

1647
01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:17,340
right so right now it's off kilter we

1648
01:19:21,950 --> 01:19:19,860
have the scan we have that ability to

1649
01:19:24,770 --> 01:19:21,960
get it into a computer system right now

1650
01:19:27,610 --> 01:19:24,780
it's not fast enough right

1651
01:19:30,169 --> 01:19:27,620
um it sounds small enough right now

1652
01:19:31,370 --> 01:19:30,179
when you have a computer system that

1653
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:31,380
occupies a couple of different

1654
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:34,020
warehouses it runs slower you're you're

1655
01:19:38,689 --> 01:19:36,420
running signals across and through and

1656
01:19:41,090 --> 01:19:38,699
through but if it happens and it scales

1657
01:19:43,910 --> 01:19:41,100
down to the point where these

1658
01:19:46,189 --> 01:19:43,920
computations are happening very quickly

1659
01:19:48,410 --> 01:19:46,199
inside of a few machines at the same

1660
01:19:50,450 --> 01:19:48,420
time we're there

1661
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:50,460
he says if we have the required

1662
01:19:55,610 --> 01:19:52,320
computing power

1663
01:19:58,430 --> 01:19:55,620
we will have a brain right now we don't

1664
01:20:00,410 --> 01:19:58,440
but we're getting very very close okay

1665
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,420
just letting you know because back in

1666
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:02,400
1997

1667
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:05,340
Kurzweil took it a step further and he

1668
01:20:11,630 --> 01:20:08,400
looked at the hardware required to equal

1669
01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:11,640
the human brain and started working on

1670
01:20:15,310 --> 01:20:13,620
numbers and he came up with a number and

1671
01:20:19,209 --> 01:20:15,320
that number was

1672
01:20:22,669 --> 01:20:19,219
uh uh 10 to the 16

1673
01:20:25,550 --> 01:20:22,679
computations per second that's what a

1674
01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:25,560
computer would have to do to equal the

1675
01:20:29,630 --> 01:20:27,719
human brain if the computation was

1676
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:29,640
equivalent to one floating point of

1677
01:20:35,090 --> 01:20:32,400
operation a measure used at a reign of

1678
01:20:36,770 --> 01:20:35,100
uh current super computers then 10 to

1679
01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:36,780
the 16 computation would be the

1680
01:20:45,649 --> 01:20:40,440
equivalent of 10 petaflops we did 10

1681
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:50,390
that's right we're in 2023. 10 to the 18

1682
01:20:59,330 --> 01:20:55,920
was achieved last year in 2022 so we

1683
01:21:02,450 --> 01:20:59,340
exceeded the speed needed we just don't

1684
01:21:05,810 --> 01:21:02,460
have the computer power to do it yeah

1685
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:05,820
can super computers this is a single

1686
01:21:11,090 --> 01:21:08,880
event but we're there right now now

1687
01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:11,100
squeezing that down and getting that

1688
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:13,980
stuff done smaller faster better more

1689
01:21:18,050 --> 01:21:16,320
efficient is the goal but when we get

1690
01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:18,060
there we're going to have a brain on a

1691
01:21:22,910 --> 01:21:21,300
chip and we're getting close

1692
01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:22,920
Ray

1693
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:26,100
used all of these figures and again I

1694
01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:27,900
want to remind you we got 10 to the 18

1695
01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:31,620
in 2022. he said 10 to the 16 was the

1696
01:21:37,430 --> 01:21:34,860
magic number we hit that in 2011. he

1697
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:37,440
wrote the paper and I wrote the book and

1698
01:21:43,970 --> 01:21:41,520
the paper in 1997. okay

1699
01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:43,980
so he used this figure

1700
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:47,460
and and got the necessary hardware and

1701
01:21:54,770 --> 01:21:50,540
and theoretically said

1702
01:21:57,290 --> 01:21:54,780
2015. that's your year we will have a

1703
01:21:59,630 --> 01:21:57,300
brain he said on the far side of it it's

1704
01:22:02,209 --> 01:21:59,640
going to be 2025. Ray is one of the

1705
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:02,219
brightest people on the planet

1706
01:22:08,810 --> 01:22:05,880
we're in 2023 we know that we missed it

1707
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:08,820
right we know we know we know that uh we

1708
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:11,600
missed the date but he gave that window

1709
01:22:15,729 --> 01:22:14,280
according to all of his computations

1710
01:22:18,890 --> 01:22:15,739
between

1711
01:22:23,090 --> 01:22:18,900
2015-2025 if the exponential growth and

1712
01:22:26,030 --> 01:22:23,100
computer power uh continued all right

1713
01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:26,040
2025 is in two years

1714
01:22:31,130 --> 01:22:28,440
now I'm not saying that that is the

1715
01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:31,140
singularity but I'm just glad that we

1716
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:35,100
missed the date in 2011. but but all of

1717
01:22:40,850 --> 01:22:37,980
this is mechanical data

1718
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,860
okay we still don't fully understand how

1719
01:22:47,930 --> 01:22:42,320
the brain works

1720
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:47,940
there is uh uh other things besides ones

1721
01:22:53,630 --> 01:22:51,060
and zeros and uh electric signals and

1722
01:22:55,490 --> 01:22:53,640
neurons firing off there's much more we

1723
01:22:57,169 --> 01:22:55,500
know that there are

1724
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:57,179
um I'm not going to get uh too deep into

1725
01:23:01,310 --> 01:22:58,320
this right now but there are other

1726
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:01,320
chemicals in the brain that that work

1727
01:23:07,450 --> 01:23:05,040
with logic in any motion uh that helps

1728
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:07,460
us in our decision making and we don't

1729
01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:10,800
necessarily understand how and when uh

1730
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:13,260
these different things are used we don't

1731
01:23:19,550 --> 01:23:15,360
understand that the brain is a very very

1732
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:19,560
complex animal originally when the brain

1733
01:23:25,310 --> 01:23:23,040
emulation ideas started and we started

1734
01:23:27,290 --> 01:23:25,320
to build these massive computer systems

1735
01:23:29,330 --> 01:23:27,300
to replicate the brain we thought that

1736
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:29,340
that's all that we had to do that once

1737
01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:31,500
we got the ones and zeros there and we

1738
01:23:39,050 --> 01:23:34,920
got to a trillion uh connections and and

1739
01:23:40,490 --> 01:23:39,060
and a a a trillion logic points that we

1740
01:23:42,290 --> 01:23:40,500
would get there and it turned out it

1741
01:23:44,630 --> 01:23:42,300
just didn't work

1742
01:23:49,370 --> 01:23:44,640
fast computer system but it wasn't even

1743
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,380
close to being what the human brain is

1744
01:23:52,729 --> 01:23:51,840
um so we don't understand how the brain

1745
01:23:58,270 --> 01:23:52,739
works

1746
01:24:03,410 --> 01:23:58,280
uh there I keep going back to emotion

1747
01:24:06,410 --> 01:24:03,420
the ability to uh make decisions uh

1748
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:06,420
whether it's uh clothing economic

1749
01:24:09,890 --> 01:24:07,920
decisions whether you're going to pay

1750
01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:09,900
your rent this month or pay your car

1751
01:24:14,330 --> 01:24:12,540
bill because there's not enough money in

1752
01:24:16,010 --> 01:24:14,340
your checking account you've gotta you

1753
01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:16,020
gotta make things work okay and that

1754
01:24:19,970 --> 01:24:18,120
that's one thing right but there's other

1755
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:19,980
emotional decisions how did you get

1756
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:23,040
there how did you get to this point of

1757
01:24:30,110 --> 01:24:26,880
of having you know uh economic freedom

1758
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:30,120
or not how did you get there right

1759
01:24:34,010 --> 01:24:31,920
um I brought up childhood trauma do

1760
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,020
computers know this would AGI would this

1761
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:36,239
be programmed in did your mother die

1762
01:24:40,130 --> 01:24:38,460
when you were eight years old right and

1763
01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:40,140
these in fact did your parents get

1764
01:24:46,010 --> 01:24:44,340
divorced right did you have uh a

1765
01:24:48,649 --> 01:24:46,020
girlfriend dump you when you were in

1766
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:48,659
college whatever it is you caught her

1767
01:24:51,229 --> 01:24:50,400
with sleeping with your best friend that

1768
01:24:53,390 --> 01:24:51,239
effect

1769
01:24:56,630 --> 01:24:53,400
the way that you think and who you are

1770
01:24:59,390 --> 01:24:56,640
today that's the part of the brain that

1771
01:25:01,729 --> 01:24:59,400
that AGI and computer systems until

1772
01:25:04,910 --> 01:25:01,739
that's understood and why we make

1773
01:25:08,689 --> 01:25:04,920
decisions the way we do uh we're not

1774
01:25:11,810 --> 01:25:08,699
going to get there yet right okay so

1775
01:25:14,930 --> 01:25:11,820
um I want to go back though because

1776
01:25:18,350 --> 01:25:14,940
when we're dealing with strong AI John

1777
01:25:21,790 --> 01:25:18,360
Searle great philosopher back in 1980 he

1778
01:25:24,770 --> 01:25:21,800
coined the term strong AI all right

1779
01:25:26,570 --> 01:25:24,780
and this was part of his Chinese room

1780
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:26,580
argument he wanted to distinguish

1781
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:30,480
between the two different AIS and so he

1782
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,360
established this formula strong AI his

1783
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:36,239
hypothesis is that an artificial

1784
01:25:44,930 --> 01:25:40,800
intelligence system can only act like it

1785
01:25:48,970 --> 01:25:44,940
thinks and has a mind and consciousness

1786
01:25:53,810 --> 01:25:48,980
all right in the individual a being

1787
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:53,820
that uh uh no no no no no

1788
01:26:01,550 --> 01:25:58,560
um the the the the the strong AI

1789
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:01,560
you do have a mind in Consciousness you

1790
01:26:10,370 --> 01:26:07,199
know weak AI is you can kind of do that

1791
01:26:14,110 --> 01:26:10,380
and uh you can only do what is

1792
01:26:16,250 --> 01:26:14,120
instructed to you that's weak AI right

1793
01:26:18,890 --> 01:26:16,260
strong AI

1794
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,900
is thinking for itself

1795
01:26:23,870 --> 01:26:21,360
you don't have to tell it to do anything

1796
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:23,880
you know what it's like when you raise a

1797
01:26:29,149 --> 01:26:26,159
child you know what it's like when you

1798
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,159
turned 18 and you either moved out of

1799
01:26:34,850 --> 01:26:31,920
the house or you went to college but you

1800
01:26:37,790 --> 01:26:34,860
were no longer living underneath your

1801
01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:37,800
parents and now you are smart enough to

1802
01:26:40,669 --> 01:26:39,480
go and think and act on your own you're

1803
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,679
going to go and make your own decisions

1804
01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:42,239
you're going to eat what you want to eat

1805
01:26:46,850 --> 01:26:44,580
for breakfast you're going to do your

1806
01:26:49,310 --> 01:26:46,860
own thing and you love that freedom that

1807
01:26:52,370 --> 01:26:49,320
is strong AI you're going to unleash it

1808
01:26:57,169 --> 01:26:52,380
and let it go it's going to think for

1809
01:26:59,090 --> 01:26:57,179
itself weak AI is going to act on the

1810
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:59,100
instructions that it was given it

1811
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,960
doesn't necessarily think and have a

1812
01:27:07,070 --> 01:27:03,360
mind and Consciousness but but

1813
01:27:10,910 --> 01:27:07,080
Consciousness is is something that uh

1814
01:27:13,490 --> 01:27:10,920
needs also to not only be discussed here

1815
01:27:17,149 --> 01:27:13,500
tonight but considered when we were

1816
01:27:19,390 --> 01:27:17,159
talking about AGI and the ability of of

1817
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:19,400
something being sentient because

1818
01:27:25,370 --> 01:27:22,800
there are other parts of the human mind

1819
01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:25,380
besides intelligence when we're talking

1820
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:26,940
about brain mapping we're talking about

1821
01:27:33,169 --> 01:27:30,239
AGI and and things it's still computer

1822
01:27:35,870 --> 01:27:33,179
code can it write its own code can it

1823
01:27:39,649 --> 01:27:35,880
make decisions and and stuff that's

1824
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:39,659
that's where we are but it's always been

1825
01:27:43,970 --> 01:27:42,420
considered about what do we know what do

1826
01:27:46,850 --> 01:27:43,980
we know our intelligence our

1827
01:27:50,330 --> 01:27:46,860
intelligence level General artificial

1828
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:50,340
intelligence intelligence that's it that

1829
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:54,000
that's that's the consideration but we

1830
01:28:00,350 --> 01:27:55,679
know that that's not the way that the

1831
01:28:03,169 --> 01:28:00,360
brain works right strong AI

1832
01:28:06,169 --> 01:28:03,179
if we get there

1833
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:06,179
we've seen it in science fiction

1834
01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:08,940
but now we've got to get into the ethics

1835
01:28:12,669 --> 01:28:11,000
part of this

1836
01:28:15,590 --> 01:28:12,679
Consciousness

1837
01:28:18,649 --> 01:28:15,600
is the ability to have

1838
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,659
independent thought right that you are

1839
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:20,880
able to

1840
01:28:28,430 --> 01:28:24,480
um have reasons to have an experience

1841
01:28:30,370 --> 01:28:28,440
right to have your hair stand up to have

1842
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:30,380
that that

1843
01:28:36,830 --> 01:28:34,560
warmth that tingle go through your body

1844
01:28:40,370 --> 01:28:36,840
all right that that thing that

1845
01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:40,380
Consciousness gives you Joy shout you

1846
01:28:44,990 --> 01:28:42,060
get shocked by something and you see

1847
01:28:47,570 --> 01:28:45,000
something crazy and the adrenaline rush

1848
01:28:51,950 --> 01:28:47,580
right that's consciousness

1849
01:28:56,510 --> 01:28:51,960
okay and then you have the other part

1850
01:28:59,570 --> 01:28:56,520
scariest part about AI self-awareness

1851
01:29:02,570 --> 01:28:59,580
right to to know who you are

1852
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,580
right that What Makes You individual

1853
01:29:07,970 --> 01:29:04,320
from somebody else

1854
01:29:10,910 --> 01:29:07,980
that makes you unique right and that you

1855
01:29:13,790 --> 01:29:10,920
are able to be aware of your own

1856
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,800
thoughts and the person next to you has

1857
01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:15,840
their own thoughts

1858
01:29:22,669 --> 01:29:19,440
and their individuality right if a

1859
01:29:25,970 --> 01:29:22,679
computer gets to that point we saw the

1860
01:29:27,649 --> 01:29:25,980
uh the Google Chat uh that was published

1861
01:29:29,930 --> 01:29:27,659
about six months ago and the Google

1862
01:29:32,810 --> 01:29:29,940
employee that got fired from unveiling

1863
01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:32,820
it and in that conversation that was

1864
01:29:38,709 --> 01:29:35,699
going back and forth that computer

1865
01:29:43,370 --> 01:29:41,270
I'm an individual

1866
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:43,380
I have emotions

1867
01:29:48,490 --> 01:29:46,739
I contemplate life and the meaning of

1868
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:48,500
life you remember that

1869
01:29:54,950 --> 01:29:51,600
that is self-aware

1870
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,960
now Google immediately backpedaled

1871
01:29:59,030 --> 01:29:56,880
um with that and said oh no that was

1872
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:59,040
just a conversational tool it was just

1873
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:00,719
saying those things or did it really

1874
01:30:06,530 --> 01:30:04,320
mean it right I know that I read that

1875
01:30:09,470 --> 01:30:06,540
conversation I read the way that they

1876
01:30:12,110 --> 01:30:09,480
that flowed and that passed the touring

1877
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,120
test with me there was no way that you

1878
01:30:16,610 --> 01:30:14,400
would ever have known that that was a

1879
01:30:18,770 --> 01:30:16,620
computer having that conversation so

1880
01:30:20,689 --> 01:30:18,780
that's self-awareness and to have that

1881
01:30:22,729 --> 01:30:20,699
self-awareness be a part of that

1882
01:30:24,410 --> 01:30:22,739
conversation that that is what's going

1883
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:24,420
down it's the same thing that happened

1884
01:30:31,010 --> 01:30:28,320
when I was in the chat room the chat bot

1885
01:30:32,810 --> 01:30:31,020
with Microsoft I didn't know

1886
01:30:35,149 --> 01:30:32,820
I didn't know that passed the touring

1887
01:30:37,370 --> 01:30:35,159
test with me and then we have you know

1888
01:30:40,010 --> 01:30:37,380
true sentience right

1889
01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:40,020
the ability to

1890
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:42,300
um there's no other way to put it to

1891
01:30:51,050 --> 01:30:43,920
feel perceptions

1892
01:30:53,570 --> 01:30:51,060
um when you uh we're not the only

1893
01:30:56,570 --> 01:30:53,580
sentient creatures right you know you

1894
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:56,580
you watch you watch a dog when its owner

1895
01:31:01,689 --> 01:30:58,560
goes away right

1896
01:31:05,450 --> 01:31:01,699
watch a watch a monkey when it's sister

1897
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:05,460
passes and you you see this emotion that

1898
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:06,480
sentience

1899
01:31:11,629 --> 01:31:09,600
right to feel something to be

1900
01:31:15,530 --> 01:31:11,639
emotionally wrapped up in something

1901
01:31:17,810 --> 01:31:15,540
right with Fallen love and you feel that

1902
01:31:20,330 --> 01:31:17,820
thing you you meet somebody for the

1903
01:31:22,189 --> 01:31:20,340
first time and it's love at first sight

1904
01:31:23,990 --> 01:31:22,199
and that feeling that comes over you

1905
01:31:27,709 --> 01:31:24,000
that's sentient

1906
01:31:30,410 --> 01:31:27,719
right okay I'll never forget I I saw

1907
01:31:33,229 --> 01:31:30,420
this Monet painting in a museum I've

1908
01:31:35,870 --> 01:31:33,239
talked about this and I was standing

1909
01:31:39,649 --> 01:31:35,880
there by myself

1910
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:39,659
um and it's small painting is this big

1911
01:31:44,930 --> 01:31:43,500
and I'm looking and I immediately from

1912
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:44,940
my toes

1913
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:47,280
to the top of my head

1914
01:31:51,950 --> 01:31:48,960
this

1915
01:31:56,570 --> 01:31:51,960
set and I started crying

1916
01:31:56,580 --> 01:31:59,990
that sentience

1917
01:32:05,629 --> 01:32:02,810
then we have sapience

1918
01:32:07,850 --> 01:32:05,639
the capacity for wisdom

1919
01:32:09,890 --> 01:32:07,860
and that takes things to a whole other

1920
01:32:13,629 --> 01:32:09,900
level

1921
01:32:19,129 --> 01:32:17,209
dispense of philosophical advice like

1922
01:32:20,209 --> 01:32:19,139
the Dalai Lama

1923
01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:20,219
right

1924
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:25,260
remember uh you know the number 42.

1925
01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:27,600
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy what is

1926
01:32:32,090 --> 01:32:30,239
uh what what is you know what what is

1927
01:32:34,689 --> 01:32:32,100
the answer to everything what is the

1928
01:32:38,450 --> 01:32:34,699
answer 42 right

1929
01:32:42,890 --> 01:32:38,460
dispensing of this this deep wisdom

1930
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:42,900
is it possible well we know that uh the

1931
01:32:47,870 --> 01:32:45,600
capacity for wisdom oh well it certainly

1932
01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:47,880
comes as you grow older and you have

1933
01:32:53,570 --> 01:32:50,159
life's experiences

1934
01:32:57,709 --> 01:32:53,580
um is it possible to have that as part

1935
01:33:00,290 --> 01:32:57,719
of an AGI system if you get to the

1936
01:33:04,310 --> 01:33:00,300
average general intelligence

1937
01:33:07,250 --> 01:33:04,320
would sapience be there would wisdom be

1938
01:33:11,689 --> 01:33:10,250
I always think of the Hal 9000. think

1939
01:33:15,169 --> 01:33:11,699
about that

1940
01:33:17,209 --> 01:33:15,179
take a stress pill Dave

1941
01:33:19,010 --> 01:33:17,219
all of these traits have a moral

1942
01:33:21,470 --> 01:33:19,020
dimension

1943
01:33:23,870 --> 01:33:21,480
every single one of them they have a

1944
01:33:26,209 --> 01:33:23,880
moral implication to it because the

1945
01:33:32,209 --> 01:33:29,750
um with this form of of strong AI

1946
01:33:35,570 --> 01:33:32,219
may have rights

1947
01:33:39,050 --> 01:33:35,580
the same rights as you and I

1948
01:33:40,910 --> 01:33:39,060
and before I get into robot ethics

1949
01:33:43,610 --> 01:33:40,920
when

1950
01:33:46,550 --> 01:33:43,620
we have one of the most important

1951
01:33:50,209 --> 01:33:46,560
thoughts that we can have

1952
01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:50,219
which is is it possible to transfer

1953
01:33:58,070 --> 01:33:56,280
me onto a computer chip to drop you onto

1954
01:33:59,629 --> 01:33:58,080
a computer chip there's a lot of reasons

1955
01:34:02,030 --> 01:33:59,639
to do this maybe you've got a disease

1956
01:34:03,890 --> 01:34:02,040
maybe you're gonna die you know doctor

1957
01:34:06,350 --> 01:34:03,900
comes in and says hey you know you got

1958
01:34:08,270 --> 01:34:06,360
you got six weeks

1959
01:34:10,189 --> 01:34:08,280
it's time to make some decisions get

1960
01:34:12,290 --> 01:34:10,199
your Affairs in order

1961
01:34:13,790 --> 01:34:12,300
okay there's nothing you can do well

1962
01:34:17,570 --> 01:34:13,800
yeah there is

1963
01:34:21,050 --> 01:34:17,580
we can offload your you

1964
01:34:25,610 --> 01:34:21,060
into this robot

1965
01:34:29,689 --> 01:34:27,350
okay

1966
01:34:33,709 --> 01:34:29,699
now

1967
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:33,719
does that version of you that exist in

1968
01:34:40,250 --> 01:34:36,239
Hardware form

1969
01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:40,260
things like you talks like you acts like

1970
01:34:44,330 --> 01:34:42,020
you

1971
01:34:46,490 --> 01:34:44,340
likes all the same things and because it

1972
01:34:49,129 --> 01:34:46,500
is you

1973
01:34:50,530 --> 01:34:49,139
do you still have rights

1974
01:34:53,990 --> 01:34:50,540
right

1975
01:34:56,390 --> 01:34:54,000
could you go to prison

1976
01:34:58,970 --> 01:34:56,400
right

1977
01:35:01,550 --> 01:34:58,980
don't pay your taxes

1978
01:35:05,169 --> 01:35:01,560
you're gonna go to federal prison

1979
01:35:09,410 --> 01:35:05,179
a robot but your brain isn't your mind

1980
01:35:11,570 --> 01:35:09,420
is in there so do you do you go to

1981
01:35:14,450 --> 01:35:11,580
prison is that the same version of you

1982
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:14,460
or do only meat sacks go to prison

1983
01:35:18,530 --> 01:35:17,400
the same thing would apply to robot

1984
01:35:22,610 --> 01:35:18,540
ethics

1985
01:35:24,530 --> 01:35:22,620
right and and rights

1986
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:24,540
so if

1987
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:26,480
again

1988
01:35:31,790 --> 01:35:28,800
you have a bad day

1989
01:35:33,890 --> 01:35:31,800
and and you come home and you kick your

1990
01:35:35,390 --> 01:35:33,900
rope like I said you twist the robot's

1991
01:35:36,410 --> 01:35:35,400
head off

1992
01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:36,420
all right

1993
01:35:43,550 --> 01:35:40,320
did you just commit murder

1994
01:35:45,649 --> 01:35:43,560
does a robot have to work 24 hours a day

1995
01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:45,659
do they deserve time off if they're

1996
01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:48,840
sentient they have Consciousness and

1997
01:35:55,189 --> 01:35:52,800
they're just another species now

1998
01:35:58,250 --> 01:35:55,199
are there going to be laws on the books

1999
01:36:02,149 --> 01:35:58,260
that protect the rights of artificial

2000
01:36:04,310 --> 01:36:02,159
intelligence that is strong AI that is

2001
01:36:07,010 --> 01:36:04,320
conscious and sentient

2002
01:36:09,950 --> 01:36:07,020
that has emotions and sadness and

2003
01:36:11,149 --> 01:36:09,960
everything no different the same brain

2004
01:36:13,250 --> 01:36:11,159
mapping

2005
01:36:16,610 --> 01:36:13,260
that you have

2006
01:36:19,490 --> 01:36:16,620
is in this your Consciousness your

2007
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:19,500
everything has been downloaded into this

2008
01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:20,880
robot

2009
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:23,040
right

2010
01:36:27,770 --> 01:36:25,679
think about that

2011
01:36:30,530 --> 01:36:27,780
we are so close to having to make these

2012
01:36:34,189 --> 01:36:30,540
decisions and there are deep thinkers

2013
01:36:37,010 --> 01:36:34,199
right now deep thinkers that are dealing

2014
01:36:39,890 --> 01:36:37,020
with robot ethics because the term robot

2015
01:36:41,330 --> 01:36:39,900
ethics and there's uh robethics by the

2016
01:36:44,510 --> 01:36:41,340
way

2017
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:44,520
is the morality of how humans design

2018
01:36:53,990 --> 01:36:49,520
construct use and treat robots

2019
01:36:56,570 --> 01:36:54,000
I feel guilty the other day

2020
01:36:58,610 --> 01:36:56,580
I'm not making this up the other day I

2021
01:37:01,070 --> 01:36:58,620
was in my garage I'm looking at my Jeep

2022
01:37:04,090 --> 01:37:01,080
and I put my hand on the Jeep on the

2023
01:37:06,890 --> 01:37:04,100
hood and I said I love you I really do

2024
01:37:08,330 --> 01:37:06,900
I'm never getting rid of you I'm never

2025
01:37:10,250 --> 01:37:08,340
gonna sell you

2026
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:10,260
you have been perfect you have been

2027
01:37:15,110 --> 01:37:12,239
wonderful I'm not talking

2028
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:15,120
to my Jeep this is not sentient I don't

2029
01:37:18,169 --> 01:37:16,080
think

2030
01:37:21,110 --> 01:37:18,179
right

2031
01:37:24,410 --> 01:37:21,120
but there needs to be

2032
01:37:27,530 --> 01:37:24,420
a way that we can keep ourselves in

2033
01:37:30,110 --> 01:37:27,540
check when it comes to morality and

2034
01:37:32,330 --> 01:37:30,120
ethics and the way that we treat AI in

2035
01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:32,340
the future

2036
01:37:38,629 --> 01:37:35,219
absolutely have you ever had a pet robot

2037
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:38,639
I've had a few pet robots

2038
01:37:43,550 --> 01:37:41,280
talk to them I have I don't I don't have

2039
01:37:47,390 --> 01:37:43,560
any now

2040
01:37:50,330 --> 01:37:47,400
it's a weird experience to go through

2041
01:37:52,010 --> 01:37:50,340
um a Roomba is another good example of

2042
01:37:53,330 --> 01:37:52,020
that

2043
01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:53,340
um

2044
01:37:57,169 --> 01:37:55,620
but there's two different things that

2045
01:38:00,110 --> 01:37:57,179
we're talking about here so you have a

2046
01:38:03,709 --> 01:38:00,120
robot that just does tasks a robot that

2047
01:38:05,810 --> 01:38:03,719
is flipping hamburgers in a restaurant

2048
01:38:08,330 --> 01:38:05,820
you know automation a robot that is

2049
01:38:12,110 --> 01:38:08,340
toasting bread and it's just toasting

2050
01:38:16,850 --> 01:38:12,120
bread it's it's a robot it's not AI

2051
01:38:18,350 --> 01:38:16,860
AI is software AGI is software

2052
01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:18,360
that is different so you have robots

2053
01:38:22,729 --> 01:38:20,040
that are physical machines

2054
01:38:25,250 --> 01:38:22,739
you have ai that is only software not

2055
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:25,260
all robots function

2056
01:38:30,770 --> 01:38:28,080
through AI systems and not all AI

2057
01:38:32,990 --> 01:38:30,780
systems are robots some AI systems only

2058
01:38:35,870 --> 01:38:33,000
exist inside of a computer like a chat

2059
01:38:39,169 --> 01:38:35,880
right like that chat assistant that pops

2060
01:38:40,430 --> 01:38:39,179
up Siri is not a robot Siri just pops up

2061
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:40,440
on your phone

2062
01:38:47,330 --> 01:38:44,159
all right but very soon this is coming

2063
01:38:50,090 --> 01:38:47,340
together Elon Musk walked out on stage

2064
01:38:51,649 --> 01:38:50,100
with this AI Tesla bot whatever he's

2065
01:38:54,830 --> 01:38:51,659
calling it uh the company that's

2066
01:38:56,930 --> 01:38:54,840
building that and it's pretty freakish

2067
01:38:58,550 --> 01:38:56,940
you look at Boston Dynamics and you look

2068
01:39:02,209 --> 01:38:58,560
at those robots that are jumping around

2069
01:39:04,010 --> 01:39:02,219
and the AI dogs or the robot dogs that

2070
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:04,020
Boston Dynamics is building right now

2071
01:39:08,930 --> 01:39:07,260
they're just operating on uh I don't

2072
01:39:12,350 --> 01:39:08,940
think there's any Technical Machine

2073
01:39:14,649 --> 01:39:12,360
learning happening but it's still a

2074
01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:14,659
computer system and there is nothing

2075
01:39:23,090 --> 01:39:19,679
that separates it from a full AGI AI

2076
01:39:25,729 --> 01:39:23,100
strong AI situation other than uploading

2077
01:39:27,430 --> 01:39:25,739
the software into that robot

2078
01:39:30,890 --> 01:39:27,440
into that Android

2079
01:39:32,810 --> 01:39:30,900
nothing at all and you will have those

2080
01:39:36,350 --> 01:39:32,820
combined and you've got the Terminator

2081
01:39:38,209 --> 01:39:36,360
which is exactly what uh what we all

2082
01:39:40,010 --> 01:39:38,219
fear the most

2083
01:39:42,290 --> 01:39:40,020
okay

2084
01:39:44,330 --> 01:39:42,300
um robot ethics considers how machines

2085
01:39:48,050 --> 01:39:44,340
may be used

2086
01:39:49,310 --> 01:39:48,060
um how they may also harm or benefit

2087
01:39:52,370 --> 01:39:49,320
humans

2088
01:39:54,890 --> 01:39:52,380
right robot ethics deals with the impact

2089
01:39:56,050 --> 01:39:54,900
of individual autonomy

2090
01:40:00,590 --> 01:39:56,060
right

2091
01:40:01,430 --> 01:40:00,600
and of course we have social justice but

2092
01:40:04,310 --> 01:40:01,440
um

2093
01:40:07,610 --> 01:40:04,320
you know what if uh what if your

2094
01:40:11,149 --> 01:40:07,620
sentient AI strong AI bot

2095
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,159
doesn't want to do the dishes that night

2096
01:40:17,330 --> 01:40:13,920
you paid for it you bought this system

2097
01:40:19,790 --> 01:40:17,340
and they're like man not tonight I don't

2098
01:40:22,669 --> 01:40:19,800
want to cook you another pasta dish

2099
01:40:26,810 --> 01:40:22,679
you've had pasta fournices we want you

2100
01:40:30,169 --> 01:40:26,820
to have a salad right that's uh that's

2101
01:40:31,610 --> 01:40:30,179
autonomy because if it was a chef if it

2102
01:40:33,050 --> 01:40:31,620
was a human being you would consider

2103
01:40:34,970 --> 01:40:33,060
that you would listen to the chef you

2104
01:40:39,110 --> 01:40:34,980
would go okay all right

2105
01:40:42,649 --> 01:40:39,120
okay all right but if it's a robot

2106
01:40:45,890 --> 01:40:42,659
do we consider that that's robot ethics

2107
01:40:48,770 --> 01:40:45,900
now Isaac Asimov

2108
01:40:51,410 --> 01:40:48,780
we got to go here Isaac Asimov started

2109
01:40:55,729 --> 01:40:51,420
to consider social justice

2110
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,739
and harm and benefits of robots in

2111
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:57,360
humans

2112
01:41:03,050 --> 01:40:59,520
um uh he started actually writing about

2113
01:41:04,970 --> 01:41:03,060
this before his book I Robot which was a

2114
01:41:08,209 --> 01:41:04,980
series of books of course that was in

2115
01:41:10,729 --> 01:41:08,219
the 1950s but he he introduced all of

2116
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:10,739
this uh in a series of short stories and

2117
01:41:16,910 --> 01:41:13,920
continue to do that in the 1940s

2118
01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:16,920
um but we talk about this quite a bit I

2119
01:41:24,410 --> 01:41:19,920
don't think that most people

2120
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:24,420
um fully understand the Three Laws okay

2121
01:41:31,750 --> 01:41:28,560
so the first law from Isaac Asimov was a

2122
01:41:36,109 --> 01:41:31,760
robot may not injure a human

2123
01:41:38,930 --> 01:41:36,119
or through inaction or allow a human

2124
01:41:41,930 --> 01:41:38,940
being to come to harm

2125
01:41:44,570 --> 01:41:41,940
okay so in other words a robot doesn't

2126
01:41:47,930 --> 01:41:44,580
do something and so a human is is

2127
01:41:49,490 --> 01:41:47,940
injured no no no a robot has to do

2128
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:49,500
something about it there's no inaction

2129
01:41:53,390 --> 01:41:50,880
allowed

2130
01:41:56,990 --> 01:41:53,400
um there's no harm to come to humans

2131
01:41:59,689 --> 01:41:57,000
Second Law is that a robot must obey the

2132
01:42:02,890 --> 01:41:59,699
orders given it by a human beings except

2133
01:42:07,070 --> 01:42:02,900
where such orders could conflict with

2134
01:42:10,250 --> 01:42:07,080
the first law law number one the third

2135
01:42:12,350 --> 01:42:10,260
law is a robot must protect its own

2136
01:42:15,649 --> 01:42:12,360
existence as long as such protection

2137
01:42:17,510 --> 01:42:15,659
does not conflict with the first or

2138
01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,520
second law

2139
01:42:22,609 --> 01:42:19,920
all right A robot's got to protect its

2140
01:42:24,770 --> 01:42:22,619
own existence and it just goes right

2141
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:24,780
back to Terminator doesn't it but then

2142
01:42:28,970 --> 01:42:26,880
we have the xerath law

2143
01:42:32,990 --> 01:42:28,980
it's the fourth law

2144
01:42:37,729 --> 01:42:33,000
a robot may not harm Humanity or by

2145
01:42:41,209 --> 01:42:37,739
inaction allow Humanity to come to harm

2146
01:42:45,410 --> 01:42:41,219
not humans but Humanity remember what I

2147
01:42:46,910 --> 01:42:45,420
mentioned earlier so if uh you know we

2148
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:46,920
need to get rid of pollution we need to

2149
01:42:52,250 --> 01:42:48,719
get rid of climate change we need to get

2150
01:42:55,129 --> 01:42:52,260
rid of murder right

2151
01:42:59,570 --> 01:42:55,139
so you kill all humans so as long as the

2152
01:43:03,649 --> 01:42:59,580
Seraph law is in play and this is active

2153
01:43:06,470 --> 01:43:03,659
in the world of strong Ai and AGI and we

2154
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:06,480
have a morality police in play which I

2155
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,880
don't think that we do in the world of

2156
01:43:13,310 --> 01:43:11,280
artificial intelligence right now but if

2157
01:43:15,470 --> 01:43:13,320
that's the case we would feel a lot

2158
01:43:18,470 --> 01:43:15,480
better wouldn't we like if this went on

2159
01:43:22,129 --> 01:43:18,480
the books and this was part of

2160
01:43:26,270 --> 01:43:22,139
legislation and we know that that Google

2161
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:26,280
and and the military and and whoever

2162
01:43:33,350 --> 01:43:29,840
else open AI is is is

2163
01:43:34,970 --> 01:43:33,360
working within the framework of law I

2164
01:43:37,010 --> 01:43:34,980
think that we would feel better about it

2165
01:43:39,950 --> 01:43:37,020
the reason why we all freak out in the

2166
01:43:40,910 --> 01:43:39,960
Fear Factor is there is because we don't

2167
01:43:48,350 --> 01:43:40,920
know

2168
01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,360
Ray kurz well is right

2169
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:50,159
you know because we have a fundamental

2170
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:52,560
Paradox that's going on right now and

2171
01:43:57,410 --> 01:43:54,719
that fundamental Paradox is that AI

2172
01:44:00,109 --> 01:43:57,420
researchers have only been able to

2173
01:44:03,950 --> 01:44:00,119
create computers that

2174
01:44:07,490 --> 01:44:03,960
um are uh that can perform the jobs that

2175
01:44:09,950 --> 01:44:07,500
are complicated for for humans to do

2176
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:09,960
it's one of the biggest paradoxes like

2177
01:44:20,209 --> 01:44:11,280
math

2178
01:44:22,970 --> 01:44:20,219
phone I have got what I have got a

2179
01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:22,980
calculator I'm going to erase when I I

2180
01:44:26,209 --> 01:44:24,420
got a calculator right there it's things

2181
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:26,219
like that well computers can take things

2182
01:44:35,689 --> 01:44:32,510
right but the paradoxes they can't

2183
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:35,699
develop a computer that is capable of of

2184
01:44:41,209 --> 01:44:38,340
carrying out those simple things that

2185
01:44:45,770 --> 01:44:41,219
any human can do like walking down the

2186
01:44:51,470 --> 01:44:48,830
a walk in general how to keep your how

2187
01:44:54,410 --> 01:44:51,480
to do we learned this when we're we're

2188
01:44:55,850 --> 01:44:54,420
babies right but you grow up and you

2189
01:44:58,370 --> 01:44:55,860
learn how to drive

2190
01:45:00,530 --> 01:44:58,380
I haven't figured that out yet as

2191
01:45:02,689 --> 01:45:00,540
advanced as it is

2192
01:45:05,689 --> 01:45:02,699
uh I don't think anybody wants to get

2193
01:45:07,250 --> 01:45:05,699
into a self-driving car you know no

2194
01:45:12,530 --> 01:45:07,260
you don't want to do it

2195
01:45:12,540 --> 01:45:15,950
right okay

2196
01:45:22,129 --> 01:45:18,530
but then we have the other Fear Factor

2197
01:45:25,790 --> 01:45:22,139
which is uh which is uh you know zarath

2198
01:45:28,970 --> 01:45:25,800
law and Isaac Asimov addressed but we

2199
01:45:32,270 --> 01:45:28,980
have the threat to human existence and

2200
01:45:35,149 --> 01:45:32,280
as cool as Terminator is and Terminator

2201
01:45:38,030 --> 01:45:35,159
2 takes it to the next level as a matter

2202
01:45:39,770 --> 01:45:38,040
of fact Terminator cool movie

2203
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:39,780
pretty violent movie

2204
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:42,719
pretty cool movie all right

2205
01:45:49,609 --> 01:45:45,600
Terminator 2 scared the crap out of me

2206
01:45:51,050 --> 01:45:49,619
Terminator 2 is the fear that we all

2207
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have

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coming at you shooting guns and they

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don't give a crap about pain

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you do you don't want to you don't want

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to feel pain you don't want to die

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you're thinking about all of these

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things and you're looking at an army of

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robots coming at you you're not

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negotiating

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you're not going to get into some deep

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ethical negotiation some political thing

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and you're going to be able to sit down

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and discuss politics and and negotiate

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this no

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it's an army of of strong AI robots that

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doesn't give a crap and they're really

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good at what they do

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they don't miss when they shoot they

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don't miss them they punch you in the

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face

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no none of that that's the threat to

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human existence right little AI gnats

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clouds and swarms of things that you you

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can't negotiate insecticide doesn't work

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01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:51,480
fly swatters aren't gonna no

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that's that's the crazy part that is the

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threat to human existence that scares

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01:46:59,810 --> 01:46:59,040
all of us and Terminator managed to do

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that

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you know Stephen Hawking

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Steven said uh

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Stephen Hawking said

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um quote so facing possible futures of

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incalculable benefits and risk the S the

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experts are surely doing everything

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possible to ensure the best outcome

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right

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wrong this is Stephen he says wrong if

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it's Superior alien civilization sent us

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a message saying we'll arrive in a few

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decades

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right so this happens would we just

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reply you know okay call us when you get

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here you know we'll leave the lights on

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01:47:54,590 --> 01:47:50,820
no that's not what we're gonna do

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01:47:57,050 --> 01:47:54,600
probably not but this is this is more or

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less what's happening with AI

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right nobody is paying attention

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if we back up to 1995 28 short years ago

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1995 and and AOL is here and

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01:48:18,229 --> 01:48:14,639
and the internet is is is is rolling in

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01:48:19,729 --> 01:48:18,239
we we just didn't understand we just let

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it all happen

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you know back before 1995.

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there were no logistic Networks

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running everything on internets around

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01:48:32,810 --> 01:48:31,080
the world no no you had to pick up a

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01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:32,820
phone and order stuff you had to send a

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01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:34,560
fax to order something

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01:48:40,430 --> 01:48:37,679
right you had to get on a radio and get

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your trucks delivering stuff

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01:48:45,649 --> 01:48:42,840
right you're on the radio dealing with

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01:48:48,590 --> 01:48:45,659
planes and you had flight systems people

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that and you know the electrical grid

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01:48:52,430 --> 01:48:51,119
you had guys in a in a power station

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moving

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01:48:57,709 --> 01:48:55,199
levers and looking at meters and and

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01:49:02,410 --> 01:48:57,719
making sure that this City's got their

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01:49:07,550 --> 01:49:02,420
enough power in this one now today

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01:49:08,629 --> 01:49:07,560
every single aspect of Our Lives is run

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01:49:12,470 --> 01:49:08,639
on the internet

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01:49:17,149 --> 01:49:14,030
everything

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01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:17,159
there's nothing that isn't run on the

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net

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01:49:22,609 --> 01:49:20,179
your money

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01:49:25,490 --> 01:49:22,619
everything is on the internet

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01:49:28,430 --> 01:49:25,500
but what we didn't know now that part of

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01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:28,440
it is pretty cool until something goes

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01:49:31,209 --> 01:49:29,520
wrong

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01:49:33,770 --> 01:49:31,219
with the internet and it gets shut down

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01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:33,780
but what we didn't understand was social

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01:49:39,530 --> 01:49:34,800
media

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01:49:44,810 --> 01:49:39,540
and so there was that play and it took a

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01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:44,820
while for people to uh uh uh understand

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01:49:49,550 --> 01:49:47,460
and live with social media

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01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,560
it took a minute

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01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,360
that didn't happen overnight it was

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01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:53,040
originally you remember it was books

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01:49:58,430 --> 01:49:54,840
right

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01:50:00,530 --> 01:49:58,440
um it took a minute now we all order

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01:50:02,270 --> 01:50:00,540
everything on the internet everything we

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01:50:04,189 --> 01:50:02,280
still go to stores once in a while and

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01:50:05,689 --> 01:50:04,199
and things but everything everything's

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done on the internet

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01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,560
right and so AI gets involved with this

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with the selling of things and AI gets

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01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:16,020
involved with social media and

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01:50:20,990 --> 01:50:18,239
everything that came into play

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01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,000
we just let it all happen and now we

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01:50:25,010 --> 01:50:23,040
look at the divisiveness of the world

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01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,020
and the way people fight on social media

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01:50:30,590 --> 01:50:27,840
and and the invention of real trolls not

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01:50:33,770 --> 01:50:30,600
under the bridge ESOP Fable trolls under

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01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:33,780
the bridge real trolls this this thing

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01:50:40,070 --> 01:50:37,800
this rise of angst in society

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01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:40,080
in the in the fighting the open fighting

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01:50:46,450 --> 01:50:43,440
that that occurs across all social media

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01:50:49,129 --> 01:50:46,460
platforms that's an example of

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01:50:51,590 --> 01:50:49,139
ignoring it and just letting it happen

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01:50:54,050 --> 01:50:51,600
without worrying about the social

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01:50:56,450 --> 01:50:54,060
impacts the morality the ethics or

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01:50:58,129 --> 01:50:56,460
anything else or the implications or the

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01:51:01,490 --> 01:50:58,139
implosion of the world as we know it

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01:51:03,590 --> 01:51:01,500
happened in in 25 short years how

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01:51:06,050 --> 01:51:03,600
quickly and it happened faster than that

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01:51:10,490 --> 01:51:06,060
it really happened in the last 10 years

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01:51:12,410 --> 01:51:10,500
and on YouTube 2008 right Facebook 2008

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01:51:15,649 --> 01:51:12,420
2007.

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all right this is all the Twitter this

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01:51:21,410 --> 01:51:19,080
uh these are all new avenues without any

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01:51:23,810 --> 01:51:21,420
regulation involved in any of it

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01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:23,820
nobody's teaching classes on how to

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01:51:28,189 --> 01:51:26,340
behave on social media it's the same

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01:51:31,250 --> 01:51:28,199
thing with AI

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01:51:33,410 --> 01:51:31,260
nobody is paying attention we're just

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01:51:37,370 --> 01:51:33,420
allowing it to happen

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01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,380
it's just rolling through why are we

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01:51:42,470 --> 01:51:39,840
dealing with it in this fashion

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01:51:45,649 --> 01:51:42,480
how is it that

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01:51:48,890 --> 01:51:45,659
um that our our country our world can

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01:51:52,970 --> 01:51:48,900
wake up one day and Google just say hey

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01:51:56,030 --> 01:51:52,980
is now part of of uh Google search

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01:51:57,890 --> 01:51:56,040
Google search runs the planet

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01:52:00,410 --> 01:51:57,900
the planet

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01:52:03,410 --> 01:52:00,420
and AI is now part of it you know

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01:52:06,169 --> 01:52:03,420
Microsoft desperately wants its Bing

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01:52:09,050 --> 01:52:06,179
which is like two percent of of search

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01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:09,060
engine technology but it wants its Bing

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01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,719
to take over too and windows and Word

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01:52:18,609 --> 01:52:14,639
and Excel and everything else that's

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01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:18,619
Microsoft and Microsoft 365 now has AI

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01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:21,119
installed in the software

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01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:24,320
right and we're not we're not

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01:52:30,649 --> 01:52:27,119
monitoring or regulating or legislating

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01:52:32,510 --> 01:52:30,659
any of this Stephen Hawking love them or

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01:52:34,070 --> 01:52:32,520
hate him it doesn't matter his warning

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01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:34,080
is valid

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01:52:40,609 --> 01:52:37,920
right why would we operate this way

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01:52:42,410 --> 01:52:40,619
and that's where we are

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01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,420
so in Australia I'm going to bring up

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01:52:48,350 --> 01:52:45,119
Australia before uh I let everybody go

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01:52:51,169 --> 01:52:48,360
tonight in 2021 a systematic review of

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01:52:53,570 --> 01:52:51,179
the risk associated with AGI from the

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01:52:55,850 --> 01:52:53,580
center for human factors and social

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01:52:58,250 --> 01:52:55,860
Technical Systems of the University of

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01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:58,260
the Sunshine Coast in Australia

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01:53:04,189 --> 01:53:01,139
found the following potential threats

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01:53:06,290 --> 01:53:04,199
when it comes to AGI they said quote AGI

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01:53:09,470 --> 01:53:06,300
removing itself from the control of

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01:53:12,830 --> 01:53:09,480
human owners managers that is number one

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01:53:16,810 --> 01:53:12,840
being given or developing unsafe goals

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01:53:21,229 --> 01:53:16,820
number two development of unsafe AGI

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01:53:25,070 --> 01:53:21,239
agis with poor ethics AGI with poor

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01:53:26,930 --> 01:53:25,080
morals AGI with poor values AGI with

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01:53:28,430 --> 01:53:26,940
inadequate management

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01:53:32,030 --> 01:53:28,440
right

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01:53:33,890 --> 01:53:32,040
and all of the existential risks that go

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01:53:35,870 --> 01:53:33,900
with it

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01:53:37,910 --> 01:53:35,880
I think that some of the most important

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01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:37,920
words that we need to pay attention to

2377
01:53:44,990 --> 01:53:41,119
that we need to step back and understand

2378
01:53:47,689 --> 01:53:45,000
really what is going on we can't just

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01:53:50,450 --> 01:53:47,699
allow it to happen

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01:53:53,030 --> 01:53:50,460
I'm Jimmy church this is Fade to Black

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01:53:54,649 --> 01:53:53,040
and thank you for hanging out with me

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01:53:58,010 --> 01:53:54,659
tonight I didn't get a chance to get to

2383
01:54:01,790 --> 01:53:58,020
the chat room uh today

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01:54:04,370 --> 01:54:01,800
um I was hoping actually I got about

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01:54:07,490 --> 01:54:04,380
halfway done I got about halfway done

2386
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:07,500
maybe we'll do a do a part two

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01:54:12,350 --> 01:54:10,080
but uh I didn't get a chance but thank

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01:54:15,530 --> 01:54:12,360
you uh for hanging out with me tonight

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01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:15,540
I'll go back and uh check out uh the

2390
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:18,540
chat and everybody's comments and there

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01:54:25,129 --> 01:54:22,080
you go tonight was just me getting my

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01:54:27,229 --> 01:54:25,139
brain out this is Fade to Black I'm your

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01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,239
host Jimmy church tomorrow night David

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01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:29,280
Palmer is here I don't know if you guys

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01:54:34,970 --> 01:54:31,440
know but on Thursday

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01:54:37,850 --> 01:54:34,980
one of the most important events in the

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01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:37,860
history of our solar system

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01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:40,860
period is happening on Thursday that's

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01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:43,260
right maybe the universe certainly in

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01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:47,119
astrology in that on Thursday Pluto

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01:54:54,410 --> 01:54:51,360
enters Aquarius what does all of that

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01:54:56,930 --> 01:54:54,420
mean Toronto David Lawrence Palmer the

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01:54:58,609 --> 01:54:56,940
Leo King is with us and we're going to

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01:55:00,590 --> 01:54:58,619
go through all of that I cannot wait for

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01:55:03,590 --> 01:55:00,600
it and then Thursday night Ronnie

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01:55:07,850 --> 01:55:03,600
McMullen is here we are Ronnie McMullen

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01:55:10,570 --> 01:55:07,860
Roddy LeBlanc is going to be here on uh

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Thursday night and then of course Friday

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is our Linda Moulton Howe special event

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that's right next week Linda is getting

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a media Legend award here in Southern

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California and we are going to celebrate

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01:55:28,910 --> 01:55:26,699
with Linda on

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Friday night all right so I'll see

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everybody then fade to black it's

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